luxembourgrst

hy her is my spec
still MFI:

piper cam 285 t
group a coil
mongoose exhaust
big airtec intercooler
stage 2 turbo (set to 17 psi)
turbosystem chip (max 18psi)
ingnition advance 16 degree

have 190-200 hp normaly

next step im thinking about stage 3 burton big valve head ?? good idea?

a uprated clutch ?? wich one ?AP organic?? ( is there not one clutch wihtout changing pedal box? )

andim looking about a stage 1 cts gearbox or (ib5 with rst lsd ) good idea?

thanks

Billy_RS

iTrader: (5)

Head work would probably be the next step.

What Pistons and rods do you have as they will need upgrading if your planning on going for big power!

tlr_rst

i thought the degree would be lower if the engine is running more more power etc, not 16 etc, my car is bog standard and it was setup with 13 degree.
i might be totally wrong just threads I've read and picked up on, don't shout at me though lol

russ rs

Call cylinder head developments
He will post and polish head etc don't go for bigger valves not needed. That work u be lucking under Ł200

Karlos G

iTrader: (4)

A stage 3 T3 would be your next upgrade for more BHP if your MFI can cope, around 240bhp is the limit of the rods though so be careful, even less if you bounce around the limiter a lot, many have broken them sub 200bhp!

luxembourgrst

ok thanks well stil have tandad piston and standard rods
well ok next step cylinder head stage 3 from burton..

what about the clutch ap organic? is there not an other one without changing the pedal box

Red_bull

You haven't set up your ignition timing with detonation detection yet did you? I would go for max advance of ignition. You need detonation detection and on rollers would be the easiest. If you never done it you need help -> Tuner

russ rs

You don't need Stage three head! If anything it will make it worse to drive 😂

Karlos G

iTrader: (4)

As said, a stage 3 head is pointless at your power.

luxembourgrst

sorry my English but pointless what this mean?

a stage 3 head big valve is it to mutch for my setup will I not win some bhp wih it?

Billy_RS

iTrader: (5)

Pointless = waste of time for your spec

You only need ported and polished head for good gains.

Then add a hybrid T3 Turbo (Stage 3)

200bhp+ easily

Then Mfi and internals are holding you back

HaggisTurbo

I would convert to EFI and get some better management make it much easier to tune as well. Stage 3 T3 also a good start

luxembourgrst

pff my stage 2 t3 is brand new hmmmmm

well what about the clutch?

luxembourgrst

but why a satge 3 turbo? because my stage 2 can go up to 20psi
but I only run it a t 17-18 psi because my turbosstem chip limit to 18psi

a stage 3 can go up to 25 psi (like burton says)

thanks guys

Karlos G

iTrader: (4)

Not needed.
No you will not gain some bhp.
Yes you will need a clutch if you have more bhp.
Stage 3 turbo will make more bhp at the same boost...... 18psi stage 2 turbo around 190bhp, 18psi stage 3 turbo around 230bhp.

luxembourgrst

well ok
if I good understand next step will only be a stage 3 turbo to win some bhp

thanks

luxembourgrst

I just bought a knock detontation LED alert monitor gonna instal it

studabear

efi conversion,

you might just be able to change the exhaust housing on the turbo to a .48

luxembourgrst

you mean on the stage 2 changing the exhaust housing

studabear

Yes as to my knowledge the stage 2 has a .36 exhaust housing.

My stage 2 did on my cvh, I swapped to a .48 for my zetec turbo.

luxembourgrst

it s mean my stage 2 turbo with a 48 exhaust housing is like a stage 3

luxembourgrst

Stock .36/45 will do 190bhp, stage 2 .36/50 will do 230bhp, stage 3 .48/55 will do 300bhp

maybe not a good idea with the 48 housing because the 50 will be 48/50 ??? is it good