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Old 14-08-2014, 08:53 PM
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Default fitting oil pressure & oil temp senders

right fellas been looking on here and other posts to find answer.

i want to fit oil pressure sender to an adapter like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1513550364...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

to the back of the block on the oil cooler.

now the oil temp sender i have read people have been putting it in sump, but heat temp will be different down there so some people been putting it on oil cooler with adapter.

my question how can i fit an oil pressure and oil temperature sender to same place????

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What about a sandwich plate that goes between the filter and block or oil cooler?
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I have the same adaptor as that for the oil pressure. I took the oil pressure switch out, put it in the end of the adaptor and then put the pressure sensor on the side.

As far as I was aware, the oil temp sensor needs to be submerged in oil. I was under the impression that the flow past the sensor in an adaptor won't be good enough. I have mine in the sump plug and it works well

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can you be kind enough to point me in the right direction for this adaptor plate thing as i know where to buy it?? still a little unsure!!

as for submerging the temp sensor that can be done but how, is it in where the sump plug would be!! and the wire coming out there if so the wires would surely by sliced by the sump plug washer screw when it threads in
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I would advise against the sump route, as mentioned above the temp will be lower then what is actually circulating the engine and if you are going to the trouble of fitting one it would be good to know the actual oil temp circulating the engine not diluted with oil that remains in the sump.
A sandwich plate is what I use, these have a constant flow of oil from the block through them.
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
I would advise against the sump route, as mentioned above the temp will be lower then what is actually circulating the engine and if you are going to the trouble of fitting one it would be good to know the actual oil temp circulating the engine not diluted with oil that remains in the sump.
A sandwich plate is what I use, these have a constant flow of oil from the block through them.
I sort of agree. The sensor will be slower to react at first as the oil in the sump is cold. But isn't the oil at its hottest as it's returned to the sump from the turbo?

Please tell me if that assumption is wrong.

I use a VDO gauge with a mk4 golf oil temp sensor. The sensor has a terminal on the back of the sensor, no wires. This fits in to an LMA adaptor to fit the sump plug hole.

With this setup, my oil temp generally sits at 100c but can creep up to 120c on a spirited drive. Oil pressure is just above 2 bar cold idle and 1 bar warm idle.

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It remains constantly diluted to some degree in the sump and you might say is even a little air cooled as there's a fair amount of airflow around it too (I have no idea how much difference it all makes, just thinking out loud, it may make very little difference?!).
Yes coming out of the turbo will be it's hottest... But that is not the temp it's circulating the engine at.
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http://rspec.co.uk/gauge-sensor-adap...-temp-pressure

I would use one of these, good price and very good quality to and will prob work out cheaper than buying a sump and oil way adapters. To be fair putting a sensor in the sump wont make much odds for a gauge most dont read that true anyway and theres only a very small amount of difference i take it you wont be doing any data logging
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In fairness, it's more about having a datum point than location of the sensor. For example, I know the temp and pressures of my engine with my current setup. If they were to deviate from these readings then I would know something is up.

I agree with JOHNDQ, most gauges don't read true, but they do give you consistent readings so you can tell if anythings up.

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Many thanks Johndq for the help in pointing me to the adapter i need. will look into getting this sorted one evening.
which one did you got for??

thanks karlos and everyone else for all your input on locations and reads etc, so having a gauge is not just for fancy boy racers it actually allows us to keep an eye on things even if the readings are not totally accurate they still read consistent.
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Putting the temperature sensor in the sump is fine. The oil circulating round the engine is drawn from the sump by the oil pump so will be at that temperature.
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Originally Posted by tlr_rst
Many thanks Johndq for the help in pointing me to the adapter i need. will look into getting this sorted one evening.
which one did you got for??

thanks karlos and everyone else for all your input on locations and reads etc, so having a gauge is not just for fancy boy racers it actually allows us to keep an eye on things even if the readings are not totally accurate they still read consistent.
when i used my RS2000 For tracking i just had the temp sensor in the sump mate tbh worked fine. I used one of there take of plates when swapped over to a MG ZR so i would think the threads are different but i had to remove it to run a take off there for a oil cooler
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Originally Posted by JOHNDQ
when i used my RS2000 For tracking i just had the temp sensor in the sump mate tbh worked fine. I used one of there take of plates when swapped over to a MG ZR so i would think the threads are different but i had to remove it to run a take off there for a oil cooler
an MG ZR what the hell... i had one of those, thought it was great upgrading from an N reg polo, in fact it was although in the 18months i owned the MG 105+ i spent more on repairs than i did in the 5 and a half years owning the polo.
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