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Old 16-07-2014, 03:38 PM
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Default Cosworth management s2 no spark no fuel pump priming?

Hi ppl i need help i was driving my rs turbo with cosworth mangement and it cut out on me. Iv checked for spark ther is none and the fuel pump is not priming.

The the two yellow relay one of them is clicking wen i turn ignition on and the other yellow relay does not click any help plz need help before ford fair thanks:
Old 16-07-2014, 03:54 PM
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check your crank sensor
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iv got fuel pump working but no spark?
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Are the injectors pulsing?
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yes injectors r pulsing
Old 16-07-2014, 06:23 PM
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Both relays need to click when you turn the ignition on mate
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are you on coil pack or dizzy?
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both relays r clickin now
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still no spark
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im on dizzy
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have you checked the basics like the carbon bush in the dizzy cap, after that I think you will need to check wiring to coil and ignition amp to find out the issue
Old 21-07-2014, 07:30 AM
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if the fuel pump is running when cranking, that should rule out the crank sensor, but if it's just priming on the ignition, that'll be the relay pulsing it.
Usually no spark and no pump running would be the crank sensor
Old 21-07-2014, 08:32 AM
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Dude stop messing about with it. Letting everyone get thier fingures on her is just pimping her out like a cheap slut.

Its a minor whatever, as the car is an animal when running.

Ill see ya this week.
Old 16-09-2014, 02:34 PM
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The car is running now it was the ingnition amp but now got another problem the car does idle around 1500 rpm and wont rev and when I do rev with pedal to floor its popping and banging? Took the plugs out thinkin they would be wet but ok ? Help plz cheers
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What has Jano suggested?

High revs could be a air leak, have a look at your map sensor pipework,
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Its revs r at 1500rpm on idle but wen I press the throttle its not revving up its popping and banging
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Iv tryed swapping a map sensor off my mates car still the same
Old 17-09-2014, 02:36 PM
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TPS set right?
Old 17-09-2014, 02:39 PM
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It was set up by jano. How is the tps set?
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Hi mate check the gap on the crank and phase sensor tgey have to be so close 0.2 mm to get a spark it coukd of knocked out of position

As for tge relay not clicking take both relays out clean contacts plug back in or replace for new ones chevk wiring on both as well clean with sandpaper

Map sensor chevk the voltage and air sensor common for failing
Old 12-12-2014, 05:25 PM
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Also chevk the plug on the ignition amp replace if corroded terminals

Leads and plugs changed recently ? Everything ive said i bet your problem lies in there
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Change management to something more reliable is my advice, so many threads about Cossie management not running right these days, it's old, the looms are old, dizzy, amp, MAP, etc. all old, same goes for Fiesta RST/XR3i/XR2i EFI.... can spend so much time and money trying to chase down problems it's just not worth it IMO, more and more people are binning it off for something new.

I know Jano won't agree but that's just my opinion/experience lol
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You talk so much crap karlos I have had enough of people sending me links of you spreading bull shit to the masses.

We both know all sensors are available. As is loom or any other part.

If you have the money buy new sensors and you wont have issues.

The management is just as reliable as the next system. Why wouldnt it be.


If you dont know your way around an engine, then why mess around with it and blame things you dont actually know about.
Over the last 15 years how many management systems do think I have fitted. i can tell you now that everyone of them are in a better value for money position than you could offer with what ever gimik you can supply.

If the op came over id sort it out within minutes I know what it is to cause the idle to stick at 1500., (not advertising just explaining) its his choice he would rather ask on here and get loads of random answers and misguided help.

If he went to the correct website he would of got all the help he needed anyway.

so stop with the propaganda as we both know you cant beat the value for money the weber system offers. If you could I would quite happily supply this system over my choice.

You make out like I dont use anything else. The fact is I make less money by selling weber than I would from selling any other system. Last month I sold more life racing amd pectel ecus than anything else. For example I would make almost 230 quid just by selling a new after market ecu like omex or emrald etc etc. I choose not to and fit weber instead value for money for the customer. If I was a total dick like some I would just take the higher profit margin and newer system.

So think a little why I choose weber. If there was a better way I woild use it on my own cars!!!

all I see you do is knock things you dont like or cant make money from. The difference is I will knock things because there is no value for money reason to use it. Not to make money from it. My customers prove the fact that caring about their pocket is more important than just getting the job


Originally Posted by Karlos G
I know Jano won't agree but that's just my opinion/experience lol

Obviously your lacking experiance then by your own admittance. We all know you have an opinion haha.
Old 14-12-2014, 11:33 AM
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Thats why i went for cossie managent better sensors throttke body etc omex woukd cost a bomb and you still need stuff to make it work
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Originally Posted by Fezzrs
Thats why i went for cossie managent better sensors throttke body etc omex woukd cost a bomb and you still need stuff to make it work
Whatever management you fit will need throttle body/sensors etc.

Standalone management can be calibrated/set up for pretty much any sensors you choose.
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...... the best sensors to use are.......

the same as whats fitted to a standard cossie.


So lets fit a new management costing loads more.
Use the same sensors either second hand or new.
Get the same results as the next person who spent half the amount
Then go round telling people they are better off.

You dont need to, or have to experience much to understand value for money.
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I think the OP may have resolved the problem by now

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Originally Posted by Versus_Creations
You talk so much crap karlos I have had enough of people sending me links of you spreading bull shit to the masses.

We both know all sensors are available. As is loom or any other part.

If you have the money buy new sensors and you wont have issues.

The management is just as reliable as the next system. Why wouldnt it be.


If you dont know your way around an engine, then why mess around with it and blame things you dont actually know about.
Over the last 15 years how many management systems do think I have fitted. i can tell you now that everyone of them are in a better value for money position than you could offer with what ever gimik you can supply.

If the op came over id sort it out within minutes I know what it is to cause the idle to stick at 1500., (not advertising just explaining) its his choice he would rather ask on here and get loads of random answers and misguided help.

If he went to the correct website he would of got all the help he needed anyway.

so stop with the propaganda as we both know you cant beat the value for money the weber system offers. If you could I would quite happily supply this system over my choice.

You make out like I dont use anything else. The fact is I make less money by selling weber than I would from selling any other system. Last month I sold more life racing amd pectel ecus than anything else. For example I would make almost 230 quid just by selling a new after market ecu like omex or emrald etc etc. I choose not to and fit weber instead value for money for the customer. If I was a total dick like some I would just take the higher profit margin and newer system.

So think a little why I choose weber. If there was a better way I woild use it on my own cars!!!

all I see you do is knock things you dont like or cant make money from. The difference is I will knock things because there is no value for money reason to use it. Not to make money from it. My customers prove the fact that caring about their pocket is more important than just getting the job





Obviously your lacking experiance then by your own admittance. We all know you have an opinion haha.
Wow, I think you may have just massively overreacted Jano.... I was just giving my opinion!
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Tbh Karlos I can see why , you do seem to have more than a few sly digs at Jano for some reason
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Not digs mate, I just don't agree with a lot of what he says.... Just different opinions that's all.
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Omex or pectel is only needed for massive power or track days im more than happy with weber l6 on my cvh its a lot cheaper than omex kms and does an effective job
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Originally Posted by Fezzrs
Omex or pectel is only needed for massive power or track days im more than happy with weber l6 on my cvh its a lot cheaper than omex kms and does an effective job
How did you come up with that conclusion.?
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The car is sorted it was wiring the car is running now. About the cosworth management I would not change its a good system an I'm happy with the management and the work jano has done he top guy.
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Originally Posted by Fezzrs
Omex or pectel is only needed for massive power or track days im more than happy with weber l6 on my cvh its a lot cheaper than omex kms and does an effective job
Never heared so much bollocks in my life!
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I dont talk bollox pal i tell it how it is i agree with jano cossie managent is the best out there for the price so stop bitching lol
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What on earth you on about!!??!! You said omex is only for massive power cars which is complete bollox! i know lads running omex on 200+ bhp cars and even NA zetecs. You can pick them up for 500 second hand with loom. And am not bitching, am just trying to educate PORK!!!
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Now now girls
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Hahahaha he started it lol
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