Mounting mtx75 to cvh
22-06-2011, 12:21 PM
#42
1/4 mile beasty!!!!
Your cps sensor does not move when you space your boxs away mate as it gets it pickup of the flywheel which isn't alterd by spacing the gearbox
22-06-2011, 12:25 PM
#44
1/4 mile beasty!!!!
When I had issues with my gearbox I spoke to kenny at msd who used to have an rs2000 turbo running an mtx with full cosworth alcon 6 paddle clutch but to do this you have to have an rs2000 flywheel and cosworth clutch heavily machined to fit so In the end I just bit the bullet and went for the focus rs option as a mate if mine had already fitted it using 3 vibration plates and grinding away part of the bell housing and it worked perfectly! With no issues
23-06-2011, 06:12 AM
#46
1/4 mile beasty!!!!
Few pics of the box
I had my box I. And out a few times spining the engine over with a spanner to see where the clutch hit the casing might be worth trying it with a spare engine if you have one instead of lifting the box in and out! Took be round five atempts to get it right! And dnt go mad with the casing other wise it will crack and spill geroil onto your clutch !!
If you need to no out else mate give me a shout!
I had my box I. And out a few times spining the engine over with a spanner to see where the clutch hit the casing might be worth trying it with a spare engine if you have one instead of lifting the box in and out! Took be round five atempts to get it right! And dnt go mad with the casing other wise it will crack and spill geroil onto your clutch !!
If you need to no out else mate give me a shout!
23-06-2011, 06:54 AM
#47
not read the whole thread, but if you get a focus rs box you don't need to cut anything out. use a zetec 2.0 flywheel and a focus rs cover, get a cosworth 6 paddle friction plate and lathe off part of the centre. relocate the oil filter remotely possibly.
i have one fittted to my xr2 zetec turbo engine.
just food for thought.
i have one fittted to my xr2 zetec turbo engine.
just food for thought.
Last edited by xr2wishy; 23-06-2011 at 06:58 AM.
dosnt look too major and daz, laser cut sounds a plan!
23-06-2011, 11:34 AM
#52
fair play on th erod change and cable clutch.
however it is easy to convert to hydraulic clutch, even mount the frs one to the pedal box.
and cable change is so much tighter and easy to do, but there are draw backs like centre console issues, so i understand the rs2000/diesel ones.
however it is easy to convert to hydraulic clutch, even mount the frs one to the pedal box.
and cable change is so much tighter and easy to do, but there are draw backs like centre console issues, so i understand the rs2000/diesel ones.
23-06-2011, 01:11 PM
#53
fair play on th erod change and cable clutch.
however it is easy to convert to hydraulic clutch, even mount the frs one to the pedal box.
and cable change is so much tighter and easy to do, but there are draw backs like centre console issues, so i understand the rs2000/diesel ones.
however it is easy to convert to hydraulic clutch, even mount the frs one to the pedal box.
and cable change is so much tighter and easy to do, but there are draw backs like centre console issues, so i understand the rs2000/diesel ones.
23-06-2011, 04:28 PM
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This is bad news as I'm in the process of building a Escort Diesel MTX75 with Focus RS clutch flywheel and differential to go with my 2.0 silvertop turbo Zetec. So, do I understand right that the clutch will not fit inside the bellhousing without modifications (I guess this applies to the Zetec as well as CVH). If this really is the case, then would it be possible to machine the clutch cover? Or is this a case of the release bearing being too close to the clutch?
I really wouldn't want to use several spacer plates as the gearbox is long enough as it is...
I really wouldn't want to use several spacer plates as the gearbox is long enough as it is...
30-06-2011, 10:57 PM
#58
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Jimbo,
Use a standard organic AP focus RS clutch and have a custom steel flywheel made with integral ring gear. (Obviously I am assuming you will measure the depth of the bellhousing (shallower on the RS2000 MTX compared to Focus RS) and spec your flywheel offset correctly.)
Use a standard organic AP focus RS clutch and have a custom steel flywheel made with integral ring gear. (Obviously I am assuming you will measure the depth of the bellhousing (shallower on the RS2000 MTX compared to Focus RS) and spec your flywheel offset correctly.)
01-07-2011, 08:45 PM
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Hi Karl, that would be the perfect way but unfortunately I'm trying to do this on a budget, I have my nurburgring funds from not making it and have already flow through that amount, even wi our discounts etc, its not as cheap as I expected
I have a focus rs ap organic clutch here, and a quaife diff
My 2.0l zetec flywheel arrived today and the clutch fits a treat so happy days
But, its ridiculously heavy, vie got to get some weight out of it!!
That's next though, I'll make it fit the engine and bell housing first!
I have a focus rs ap organic clutch here, and a quaife diff
My 2.0l zetec flywheel arrived today and the clutch fits a treat so happy days
But, its ridiculously heavy, vie got to get some weight out of it!!
That's next though, I'll make it fit the engine and bell housing first!
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Just to answer myself: When fitting a Zetec + mk5 Escort casing MTX75 + FRS Torsen + FRS clutch, I was able to shave some aluminum from the bellhousing at the one location only and and get the clutch pacakeg to turn freely. I tested it with no spacer plates so
I have some marginal when I use the one.
What is catching on the bellhousing, is mostly the cluth plate screws. It would also be quite easy to pocket the screw heads deeper into the clutch cover.
I also compared the mk5 Escort MTX75 and FRS MTX75 casings side to side, and it is clear that the FRS casing has a ~10mm longer lip on the bellhousing pushing the gearbox more into the left chassis leg.
I have some marginal when I use the one.
What is catching on the bellhousing, is mostly the cluth plate screws. It would also be quite easy to pocket the screw heads deeper into the clutch cover.
I also compared the mk5 Escort MTX75 and FRS MTX75 casings side to side, and it is clear that the FRS casing has a ~10mm longer lip on the bellhousing pushing the gearbox more into the left chassis leg.
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26-11-2015, 06:09 AM
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Ever since I did the conversion back in 08 I've used the heavy 2.0 flywheel and it's been great apart from drag racing I've suffered from slow'ish gear changes at high revs .I've always blamed the synchros but recently changed to light flywheel and race clutch but won't be testing the car till march now so i cant really answer your question yet
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Ever since I did the conversion back in 08 I've used the heavy 2.0 flywheel and it's been great apart from drag racing I've suffered from slow'ish gear changes at high revs .I've always blamed the synchros but recently changed to light flywheel and race clutch but won't be testing the car till march now so i cant really answer your question yet
Another good thing is the firm that is selling them says they are made to order and can make the holes 10mm instead off 11mm to suit cvh
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