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Old 03-07-2010, 12:41 AM
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hi i have just bought a new engine for my escort. im wanting to know what sort of power i can expect.

the engine was built by jamsport in 2007 with reciepts

full bottom end rebuild
new head cylinder
piper t2 cam
upgraded clutch
chipped by jamsport
ported and polished.

i have since had the engine stripped and checked, full set of gaskets fitted including head gasket new head bolts, new ht leads, new thermostat, new fuel filter, new timing belt, new lifters and oil seals in head. running standard turbo, dump valve, full scorpion exhaust, if i get it mapped and turn up the boost what sort of bhp could i get out of it?

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new oil and filter as well
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anyone?
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Running standard turbo 220bhp

Is it running on MFI ?
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Not a chance of getting anywhere near 220bhp on a stock T3.
With that spec on MFI (as you dont say otherwise) 180-190 genuine bhp @ fly if you have a good intercooler?
If your EFI then might get a fraction closer to 200bhp but not much
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im not sure if its mfi or efi how do you tell? no intercooler as yet. am i better to get an upgraded turbo? what sort of boost will she be running?

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do you still have the little red pipes going from metering unit to injectors?

i would fit better intercooler first before upgrading turbo
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Originally Posted by gus
do you still have the little red pipes going from metering unit to injectors?


i would fit better intercooler first before upgrading turbo
yes little red pipes are there, take it shes mfi then?

how much can you get a decent 2nd hand intercooler for and are they hard to fit? money is tight after buying/ fitting the engine

is efi really worth changing to? is it a big job?

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yep thats mfi then

no idea on prices, grs would be my choice

and imo efi is the way to go

but then it really depends on how far you wanna go with the car
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grs go for any where between 120-220 second hand or 280 new posted.

efi is the was forward but i would say get used to the mfi first enjoy the car before convertin lol


Oh just to add the coolers are easy to fit just bumper off and bolt it on, as for converting the efi it depends what you go for ... omex,cossie,ofab, thats only to name a few.

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Originally Posted by conor.rst
grs go for any where between 120-220 second hand or 280 new posted.

efi is the was forward but i would say get used to the mfi first enjoy the car before convertin lol


Oh just to add the coolers are easy to fit just bumper off and bolt it on, as for converting the efi it depends what you go for ... omex,cossie,ofab, thats only to name a few.
good advice thenks matey

i havent actually drove the car yet! does 180 - 190 bhp feel fast in an rs turbo?

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Originally Posted by bubs_rsturbo
good advice thenks matey

i havent actually drove the car yet! does 180 - 190 bhp feel fast in an rs turbo?

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A GENUINE 180/190 feels pretty nippy in an old escort IMO. Obviously depends what you're used to though
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Originally Posted by bubs_rsturbo
good advice thenks matey

i havent actually drove the car yet! does 180 - 190 bhp feel fast in an rs turbo?

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what cars have you had in the past mate ?

when i first got my rst the turbo was fooked and it wasnt boosting but i thaught i was really fast then when i got a new turbo and it started boosting to 10 psi i shit myself lol
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Originally Posted by phil69a
A GENUINE 180/190 feels pretty nippy in an old escort IMO. Obviously depends what you're used to though
well its my first turbod car

previous cars

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NO feeling like a turbo mate and yes a gen 190bhp rst would feel fast
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Originally Posted by conor.rst
NO feeling like a turbo mate and yes a gen 190bhp rst would feel fast
i want it quick enough to beat my two mates cars

civic type r
integra type r

what bhp is your rst running?
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Originally Posted by bubs_rsturbo
i want it quick enough to beat my two mates cars

civic type r
integra type r

what bhp is your rst running?
the 2 about ar about 180 bhp are they ? well the integgy is at least im sure.

no idea what im running yet mate im waiting on my ecu from jano. hopfully around the 220-230 mark when i get hold of a new turbo .
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Originally Posted by conor.rst
the 2 about ar about 180 bhp are they ? well the integgy is at least im sure.
both about 190 i think, just think it would be great to see an old escort blow them away as i think they are secretly laughing at me even thinking its possible, they no nothing about the rst.

[/QUOTE]no idea what im running yet mate im waiting on my ecu from jano. hopfully around the 220-230 mark when i get hold of a new turbo .[/QUOTE]

are you on efi now? how much does the conversion cost? yours looks the part on the cossie wheels
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Originally Posted by bubs_rs turbo
both about 190 i think, just think it would be great to see an old escort blow them away as i think they are secretly laughing at me even thinking its possible, they no nothing about the rst.
no idea what I'm running yet mate I'm waiting on my ecu from jano. hopefully around the 220-230 mark when i get hold of a new turbo .[/quote]

are you on efi now? how much does the conversion cost? yours looks the part on the cossie wheels [/quote]


gotta think power to weight ratio as well mate if you want a fast rst you can always put it on a diet lol get stripping.

yeah mines cossie managed um the cossie conversion starts at around 1350 i think thats with a converted cossie loom and l6 ecu blue injectors still a good system tho as most will agree, The main problem you have with mfi is the fueling so whilst you can get good power it can be unreliable and the last thing you want the to be blowing your mates cars away then be blowing your engine up ha ha

get on oddkiddcreations.co.uk mate thats janos forum everything you need to know about cossie management and there all top lads on there

cheers for the comment on the car, post some pics of yours up
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I recon you prob got more around 160bhp at wheels. get a big intercooler and uprated turbo and then get it set up by a pro... You got preety much same set up as me apart from cooler and ally rad mine is about that with 10psi.

Always intercoolers in for sale adds. you cnt get a second hand pace double capacity for about 70 posted

As I think if you want to start hitting the 200+ mark you wanna start saving some pennies. remember these are any 135bhp aprox stadard but in there prime that was pretty nippy.

What PSi is the turbo pushing?
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Originally Posted by bubs_rsturbo
i want it quick enough to beat my two mates cars

civic type r
integra type r

what bhp is your rst running?
My 328i is about as fast as a civic type r (not the newest shape). And my rst with a genuine 185brake at the crank was a fair bit quicker than my 328i.

The escort did a 14.4 sec 1/4 mile and a 2004 civic type r does it in 15.2.... so yep it will be faster.

Rob,
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Originally Posted by tomS2-Rst
I recon you prob got more around 160bhp at wheels. get a big intercooler and uprated turbo and then get it set up by a pro... You got preety much same set up as me apart from cooler and ally rad mine is about that with 10psi.

Always intercoolers in for sale adds. you cnt get a second hand pace double capacity for about 70 posted

As I think if you want to start hitting the 200+ mark you wanna start saving some pennies. remember these are any 135bhp aprox stadard but in there prime that was pretty nippy.

What PSi is the turbo pushing?
i mate i must keep en eye out for a good 2nd hand cooler

not sure what psi the turbo is pushing at the minute, the car is a bout 20 miles from me gettin some welding done, handbrake cables, brake pads and discs and ready for mot. since buying th car i have been bitten with the ford bug! dying to get her finished and on the road!

Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
My 328i is about as fast as a civic type r (not the newest shape). And my rst with a genuine 185brake at the crank was a fair bit quicker than my 328i.

The escort did a 14.4 sec 1/4 mile and a 2004 civic type r does it in 15.2.... so yep it will be faster.

Rob,


thanks for that mate i would love to see that! cant beat old school power!
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Originally Posted by conor.rst
no idea what I'm running yet mate I'm waiting on my ecu from jano. hopefully around the 220-230 mark when i get hold of a new turbo .
are you on efi now? how much does the conversion cost? yours looks the part on the cossie wheels [/quote]


gotta think power to weight ratio as well mate if you want a fast rst you can always put it on a diet lol get stripping.

yeah mines cossie managed um the cossie conversion starts at around 1350 i think thats with a converted cossie loom and l6 ecu blue injectors still a good system tho as most will agree, The main problem you have with mfi is the fueling so whilst you can get good power it can be unreliable and the last thing you want the to be blowing your mates cars away then be blowing your engine up ha ha

get on oddkiddcreations.co.uk mate thats janos forum everything you need to know about cossie management and there all top lads on there

cheers for the comment on the car, post some pics of yours up [/QUOTE]


the main problem i have is im from belfast! allo the best tuners are from england. the only ones near me are east coast customs and momentum motorsport and they all seem to be into jap scrap!
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Maby something like omex would suite you better ..... not sure tho never had any experience with omex
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