focus rs engine an maybe gear box in s2?

[Micki]

im planning on putting the focus rs zetec into my s2 i know this in itself is relativly straight forward when using the s2 gearbox and the 1800 zetec flywheel i dont mind doing this with quaife internals,but i didnt know if anyone had used the gearbox aswell and if so was there any mods needed to the car itself as i have my s2 fully restored and ready for spraying but dont wana get it done and have to cut the fresh paint afterif anyone can help let me know cheers.

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[Karlos G]

The only tip I can give is not to use the S2 gearbox, even the CTS Stage 2+ box's have been broken many many times, stick with the FRS box fella!
Crazycage on here is the man to explain whats needed to fit it to the S2, i'm sure he'll be on with the details mate!

[mrviper]

i have broken a stage 2+ bernie box at brunters

was only runnin 18 psi and rev limited to 5k (not finished mapping) in a silver top zetec turbo

3rd gear was well properly munched!

[crazycage]

you need to trim the inner wing a little for the box to fit in the hole lol, then its just a case of fabbin up all your mounting points and doing a hydrauilc clutch conversion the rest is easy.

p-s if you cant weld dont try it .

[Micki]

nice cheers for the help.Dont surpose you know what the focus box can handle in terms of power,obviously with an uprated clutch

[StephenC]

crazycage, just thinking out aloud, with these inner arch mods, is it not possible to move the engine over towards the drivers side to give the room required or not? Never looked at it but was just wondering the other day.

Originally Posted by Micki

nice cheers for the help.Dont surpose you know what the focus box can handle in terms of power,obviously with an uprated clutch

What focus box? MTX or IB5?

[Micki]

Originally Posted by S1 JOHN S1

What focus box? MTX or IB5?

the mtx75

Originally Posted by Micki

the mtx75

Rated to 330LBFT IIRC

There pretty strong and with a slipper should be better

[Twiddle]

most of the focus rs's with big power (350 odd bhp and same torques) use standard boxes and as crazy cage said above not that hard ahs long as you can be bothered to weld and cut and shut mounts. Plus you need custom drive shafts.

[project rs]

Originally Posted by StephenC

crazycage, just thinking out aloud, with these inner arch mods, is it not possible to move the engine over towards the drivers side to give the room required or not? Never looked at it but was just wondering the other day.

we measured that option and still won't fit, also tried moving engine backwards to gain a little but still no good you need to take off about 15mm if my memory serves me right

[Karlos G]

Just take a grinder the the engine/gearbox, soon get it in there! lol

[crazycage]

Originally Posted by Karlos G

Just take a grinder the the engine/gearbox, soon get it in there! lol

tbh mate by time you sealed and painted the inner wing you would never know it has been done .

[Karlos G]

Yeah doesnt take much to do a tidy job, if my welding skills were better i'd do it for sure!
Had a few gearbox's fail at quite low BHP so would be nice to have something reliable in there!

[Matthew_M]

im seriosly looking at doing the box conversion has anybody got any pics of the mounts that they had to make?

how much work is it to modify the standard frs driveshafts?

started fitting my hydralic clutch master cylinder yesterday

thanks to karlos's guide :thumbsup

[Karlos G]

Yeah i'll get round to finishing that when I get the box back in!! lol
Pistons arrived today so at last I can commence the rebuild!!

[turbocabessex]

Originally Posted by Karlos G

Yeah i'll get round to finishing that when I get the box back in!! lol
Pistons arrived today so at last I can commence the rebuild!!

u ripped yor car apart since i see u in southend in the summer then karlos?

[Karlos G]

lol
Yes mate, I had a valve seat drop from the head destroying my engine!!!
So building up a new one, with a new block, forged pistons and rods (Wossner, PEC), and a repaired NMS head!
If you want to see what happened look here.... http://passionford.com/forum/ford-es...use-found.html and here... http://passionford.com/forum/ford-es...0396-well.html

[turbocabessex]

Originally Posted by Karlos G

lol
Yes mate, I had a valve seat drop from the head destroying my engine!!!
So building up a new one, with a new block, forged pistons and rods (Wossner, PEC), and a repaired NMS head!
If you want to see what happened look here.... http://passionford.com/forum/ford-es...use-found.html and here... http://passionford.com/forum/ford-es...0396-well.html

lol i had a valve snap an destroy my entire engine too lol, just built up a standard 1 i had layin around while im building my 1800 low comp cvh, rs turbo power, u gotta love it lol

[Karlos G]

lol Yes mate! One mission after another!!

[turbocabessex]

i got some pics of mine on my fb, how would i get them off to post up? alot of u would be surprised, if the damage wasnt so spectacular i wouldnt av laughed at it lol

[Karlos G]

Right click them and select 'Save As' then use www.imageshack.com or www.photobucket.com to put them up on here.

[turbocabessex]

Originally Posted by Karlos G

Right click them and select 'Save As' then use www.imageshack.com or www.photobucket.com to put them up on here.

sweet, ill crack on with it

[crazycage]

Originally Posted by Matthew_M

im seriosly looking at doing the box conversion has anybody got any pics of the mounts that they had to make?

how much work is it to modify the standard frs driveshafts?

started fitting my hydralic clutch master cylinder yesterday

thanks to karlos's guide :thumbsup

i made my shafts from a set of fiesta ones and a set of mondeo ones on my car and a set of escort ones and a set of focus ones on ricks car both of them run big power with no probs and have done for over a year now.

ill post some pics of how i done it when i get time.

[crazycage]

heres a some pic's that i have just gone and took there is very little paint if any as it the coversion was done in a rush last year for classic ford show !! so its all out over winter for some sealer and paint .
btw i run five mounts, two on the engine and three on the gearbox because i hammer mine hard off the line at the pod on 888s .

[project rs]

fancy putting those shonky pictures up could of waited till i gave it a blow over for you to smarten it all up p.s like the new foot wear shame you lost the other leg though bet most people be surprised they're getting beat by a 1 legged hill billy

[jonny s2]

whilst were talking about this conversion,if i put the silvertop zetec together with the focus rs box clutch an flywheel, can i get away with running the 1.8 sump? or does it have to be the 2.0 blacktop sump?

[crazycage]

Originally Posted by jonny s2

whilst were talking about this conversion,if i put the silvertop zetec together with the focus rs box clutch an flywheel, can i get away with running the 1.8 sump? or does it have to be the 2.0 blacktop sump?

it will bolt to the 1.8 no probs but there will be two extra bolt holes in the bottom of the box doing nothing but so what i have never got round to putting them in mine lol.

[jonny s2]

Originally Posted by crazycage

it will bolt to the 1.8 no probs but there will be two extra bolt holes in the bottom of the box doing nothing but so what i have never got round to putting them in mine lol.

cheers gary,so this will be fine

[Rick]

pity i havent got any pics of my mounts/bay as we made that look a lot nicer. The inner wings are tapered in on both sides, seam sealered and painted it and it looks spot on.

Thing is, the above setup works -i've launched it at the pod with Micky t's and Gary has done countless more - it's goto have more than 50 full bore launches under its belt.

Rick

[crazycage]

Originally Posted by Rick

pity i havent got any pics of my mounts/bay as we made that look a lot nicer. The inner wings are tapered in on both sides, seam sealered and painted it and it looks spot on.

Thing is, the above setup works -i've launched it at the pod with Micky t's and Gary has done countless more - it's goto have more than 50 full bore launches under its belt.

Rick

i learned a lot from doing mine that made the job easier and nicer to do yours lol.
but that said it does work very well and thats all that matters to me fuck what it looks like its no show car.

[Rick]

defo mate

[botters]

i know with that box and a cvh if you lower the engine 20mm you dont need to cut the inner wing dont know if poss with a focus engine tho

[crazycage]

Originally Posted by Rick

pity i havent got any pics of my mounts/bay as we made that look a lot nicer. The inner wings are tapered in on both sides, seam sealered and painted it and it looks spot on.

Thing is, the above setup works -i've launched it at the pod with Micky t's and Gary has done countless more - it's goto have more than 50 full bore launches under its belt.

Rick

looks a little better now mate .

[Karlos G]

Very tidy job!

[StephenC]

Originally Posted by botters

i know with that box and a cvh if you lower the engine 20mm you dont need to cut the inner wing dont know if poss with a focus engine tho

interesting, liking the sound of that

Crazy u could have painted all the back panel too

Look's nice BTW

[crazycage]

Originally Posted by S1 JOHN S1

Crazy u could have painted all the back panel too

Look's nice BTW

was going to but thought fuck it you will never see it when the metal trim goes back on lol.
plus like i said its no show car.

[crazycage]

Originally Posted by botters

i know with that box and a cvh if you lower the engine 20mm you dont need to cut the inner wing dont know if poss with a focus engine tho

shame the focus rs box wont fit on a cvh then.

[project rs]

gary that looks so much better and all your black bits are done just silver to go now be all together soon