16 cvh 300BHP

d4 rst · 30-12-2009, 10:39 AM

How fast is it?

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xr2wishy · 30-12-2009, 10:42 AM

very few and very fast.

Chip · 30-12-2009, 10:42 AM

And more importantly, how expensive was it?

ultimately if its going fast that is your main concern, a 1600 cvh engine isnt really the natural choice.

Rob_DOHC · 30-12-2009, 10:49 AM

i agree, i suppose there is a nice stockness and achievement to getting 300+ from the 1600, but in reality it is far cheaper and more reliable to build a zetec turbo or zvh....... remember 300 brake will rape most gearboxes you will put on it lol so unfortunately in my book you would need to do an MTX75 swap as well.

Rob,

Chip · 30-12-2009, 10:57 AM

I think personally I would just fit a standard focus RS engine and box on aftermarket management if I wanted 300bhp in a mk3/4 escort.

d4 rst · 30-12-2009, 11:23 AM

MY SPEC 16 CVH + 5mm OVERSIZE PISTONS 751 STEEL BOTTOM END STAGE 4 HEAD KENT CVH 36 CAM BIG VALVES GAS FLOWED CTS STAGE 2+ BOX GOTECH PRO X MANAGEMENT TURBO??

Chip · 30-12-2009, 11:28 AM

Sounds a reasonable basis for decent power if its setup right.

Get it onto a set of rollers at a decent tuners and im sure they can advise you where to go next.

Jamsport seem the logical choice if you are on gotech, as they have done more with the combination of a CVH engine on Gotech than the rest of the world combined I would wager.

crazycage · 30-12-2009, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chip

I think personally I would just fit a standard focus RS engine and box on aftermarket management if I wanted 300bhp in a mk3/4 escort.

and its not that hard to do .

d4 rst · 30-12-2009, 04:14 PM

I WILL LIKE TO GET 170mph OUT OF MY CAR.

rstdave · 30-12-2009, 04:26 PM

Good luck regarding the 170mhp if you stick with the 1.6

Chip · 30-12-2009, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4 rst

I WILL LIKE TO GET 170mph OUT OF MY CAR.

I reckon you can do that at brunters pretty easily for 10-15K

d4 rst · 31-12-2009, 02:50 PM

what turbo will i need?

crazycage · 31-12-2009, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4 rst

what turbo will i need?

ask the man that is specing the rest of the engine.

Chip · 31-12-2009, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4 rst

what turbo will i need?

I get the impression that you dont really understand quite how much work is involved in getting a big power engine to work well, its not just a case of bolting a few bits on.

Who is going to be mapping it when you have finished?

d4 rst · 31-12-2009, 03:10 PM

LUKE

crazycage · 31-12-2009, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4 rst

I will go to jamsport and ask them.

jamie will want a gt30 on it then if its one of his big power cvh engines.

p-s why keep it cvh?? and what gearbox are going to use? if its a bc/ib5 it will end in loads of fucked boxes!! then theres the clutch theres not that much choice for big power on the cvh.

Chip · 31-12-2009, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4 rst

I will go to jamsport and ask them.

Would be worth discussing the whole spec with them then.

Whats your budget?

rsmat · 31-12-2009, 03:19 PM

240bhp was plenty enough power in my old s2

d4 rst · 31-12-2009, 03:19 PM

keep it originally rs turbo

crazycage · 31-12-2009, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4 rst

keep it originally rs turbo

there will be nothing original left if you are trying to build a 350hp cvh lol each to there own.

d4 rst · 31-12-2009, 03:23 PM

MY CAR WAS 233bhp

d4 rst · 31-12-2009, 03:25 PM

Still my cvh block

crazycage · 31-12-2009, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4 rst

Still my cvh block

are you going to put a mtx or 6speed box in it ??

d4 rst · 31-12-2009, 03:32 PM

i have got cts stage 2 + box

crazycage · 31-12-2009, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4 rst

i have got cts stage 2 + box

that wont last long with 350+bhp .

d4 rst · 31-12-2009, 03:40 PM

I JUST WANT 300bhp FOR NOW.

Chip · 31-12-2009, 03:40 PM

What is your budget?

gus · 31-12-2009, 03:42 PM

didnt you just ask that

d4 rst · 31-12-2009, 03:43 PM

for turbo £1500

crazycage · 31-12-2009, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4 rst

I JUST WANT 300bhp FOR NOW.

thats fine but you wont do 170mph with 300hp the box has a better chance of lasting at that power tho.

Chip · 31-12-2009, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4 rst

I will go to jamsport and ask them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gus

didnt you just ask that

Yeah but it got missed.

1500 should sort you out a decent gt3071 on an internal gate no problem

gus · 31-12-2009, 03:48 PM

maybe

Ginger Will · 31-12-2009, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chip

And more importantly, how expensive was it?

ultimately if its going fast that is your main concern, a 1600 cvh engine isnt really the natural choice.

I asked this question when d4 rst asked how many people had 400bhp, on this thread: http://passionford.com/forum/ford-es...ke-400bhp.html

I agree with Chip if this level of power is your goal, don't use and engine where all the valves and guides don't line up! The Zetec is proven to have stronger internals and better gas flow, after all ford thought it was good enough to turbo.

Also the whole gearbox not taking the power etc. You would be as well to buy a Focus RS.

d4 rst · 31-12-2009, 03:54 PM

what speed will i get cheers.

crazycage · 31-12-2009, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4 rst

what speed will i get cheers.

why are you so bothered about top speed ?? theres a lot more to it than power .

Ginger Will · 31-12-2009, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d4 rst

what speed will i get cheers.

What bumpers does it have, wheel size, gearing choice, wing mirrors, cut out for intercooler.....

Its hard to say, i could have a car making 450 bhp but if it peaked at 3500 revs and was only able to make 200bhp by 4000 it might not be much faster than stock.

d4 rst · 31-12-2009, 04:00 PM

Happy new year have to go see you 2010.

Ginger Will · 31-12-2009, 04:03 PM

Happy New Year EVERYONE!, I'm staying in though...

d4 rst · 01-01-2010, 12:15 AM

Happy new year

mattyboyrst · 03-01-2010, 04:51 PM

,massive harvey gibbs spec engine consists of the following.
1690 cvh block
polished and sized rods
mahle low comp pistons [7.6:1c/r]
polished crank and shells
recon head using genuine ford gaskets,seals
brand new distributor+group a coil
new dizzy cap and rotor arm
new 8mm ford motorsport leads
new stage 3 turbo 48 a/r housing,60 trim compresser wheel
radtech front mount cooler with twin fans
new radiator
new samco hoses
new ford hoses
unlimited boost chip mapped by harvey gibbsset to peak at 26 psi and hold 24 psi
uprated fuelling,with pressure regulator active,cold start removed
fully rebuilt big bearing gearbox
s2 gearing and LSD built into series 1 casing
helix 4 paddle clutch
techniclutch h/d cover plate and release bearing
braided lines
new alternator
b@m short shift kit
Rolling roaded at scs stage 2 at 26psi @271bhp still a lot of bhp in a little car especially with no lag

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Chip * Sierra RS Custard * Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 33,077	I think personally I would just fit a standard focus RS engine and box on aftermarket management if I wanted 300bhp in a mk3/4 escort. __________________ Sometimes its more fun not to care if things make sense, and just do them anyway! Vauxhall Nova, Mid Engined, RWD, 457bhp, Autronic SM4, GT35R, Quaiffe ATB Diff 2.0 16v - DIY Specced, DIY Built, DIY Mapped, DIY Abused www.VauxSport.com

30-12-2009, 11:23 AM	#6
d4 rst DADDY RST Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 856	300bhp MY SPEC 16 CVH + 5mm OVERSIZE PISTONS 751 STEEL BOTTOM END STAGE 4 HEAD KENT CVH 36 CAM BIG VALVES GAS FLOWED CTS STAGE 2+ BOX GOTECH PRO X MANAGEMENT TURBO??

30-12-2009, 11:28 AM	#7
Chip * Sierra RS Custard * Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 33,077	Sounds a reasonable basis for decent power if its setup right. Get it onto a set of rollers at a decent tuners and im sure they can advise you where to go next. Jamsport seem the logical choice if you are on gotech, as they have done more with the combination of a CVH engine on Gotech than the rest of the world combined I would wager. __________________ Sometimes its more fun not to care if things make sense, and just do them anyway! Vauxhall Nova, Mid Engined, RWD, 457bhp, Autronic SM4, GT35R, Quaiffe ATB Diff 2.0 16v - DIY Specced, DIY Built, DIY Mapped, DIY Abused www.VauxSport.com

30-12-2009, 10:49 AM	#4
Rob_DOHC Too many posts.. I need a life!! Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: London Posts: 849	i agree, i suppose there is a nice stockness and achievement to getting 300+ from the 1600, but in reality it is far cheaper and more reliable to build a zetec turbo or zvh....... remember 300 brake will rape most gearboxes you will put on it lol so unfortunately in my book you would need to do an MTX75 swap as well. Rob,

30-12-2009, 04:14 PM	#9
d4 rst DADDY RST Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 856	300bhp I WILL LIKE TO GET 170mph OUT OF MY CAR.

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rstdave Advanced PassionFord User Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bristol/Bath Posts: 1,695	Good luck regarding the 170mhp if you stick with the 1.6 __________________ RS's...u've gotta love em...but mine's usually broke!!

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d4 rst DADDY RST Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 856	what turbo will i need?

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rsmat 300+ Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: either at work or on way :) Posts: 6,654	240bhp was plenty enough power in my old s2 __________________ owner of the new focus rs in frozen white.. Member of "The Daytime pf talk bollocks and random shite club #10" - rsmat ------------------------------------ RETIRED KOSMAN TAGGER!!!

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d4 rst DADDY RST Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 856	MY CAR WAS 233bhp

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d4 rst DADDY RST Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 856	Still my cvh block

31-12-2009, 03:32 PM	#24
d4 rst DADDY RST Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 856	i have got cts stage 2 + box

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d4 rst DADDY RST Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 856	I JUST WANT 300bhp FOR NOW.

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Chip * Sierra RS Custard * Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 33,077	What is your budget? __________________ Sometimes its more fun not to care if things make sense, and just do them anyway! Vauxhall Nova, Mid Engined, RWD, 457bhp, Autronic SM4, GT35R, Quaiffe ATB Diff 2.0 16v - DIY Specced, DIY Built, DIY Mapped, DIY Abused www.VauxSport.com

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d4 rst DADDY RST Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 856	for turbo £1500

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d4 rst DADDY RST Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 856	what speed will i get cheers.

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d4 rst DADDY RST Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 856	Happy new year have to go see you 2010.

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d4 rst DADDY RST Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 856	Happy new year

03-01-2010, 04:51 PM	#40
mattyboyrst I'm Finding My Feet Here Now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: worcstershire Posts: 120	,massive harvey gibbs spec engine consists of the following. 1690 cvh block polished and sized rods mahle low comp pistons [7.6:1c/r] polished crank and shells recon head using genuine ford gaskets,seals brand new distributor+group a coil new dizzy cap and rotor arm new 8mm ford motorsport leads new stage 3 turbo 48 a/r housing,60 trim compresser wheel radtech front mount cooler with twin fans new radiator new samco hoses new ford hoses unlimited boost chip mapped by harvey gibbsset to peak at 26 psi and hold 24 psi uprated fuelling,with pressure regulator active,cold start removed fully rebuilt big bearing gearbox s2 gearing and LSD built into series 1 casing helix 4 paddle clutch techniclutch h/d cover plate and release bearing braided lines new alternator b@m short shift kit Rolling roaded at scs stage 2 at 26psi @271bhp still a lot of bhp in a little car especially with no lag

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