16 cvh 300BHP

[trooper1991]

Originally Posted by turboboss bigger wheels and more power which peaks over 7000rpm could try a taller final drive like a 3.58 diesel gear but if the car a cvh you might lack the torque no problem with a 16v zetec or zvh bigger wheels are on the way as ive just bought my self a nice set of 4 pot brembos and 345mm discs can a cvh go about 7000rph as mine limits at 6,700rpm

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[Rob_DOHC]

Yes you can move the rev limit up, should do 7000 rpm.......... for a minute or two lol

[trooper1991]

Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC

Yes you can move the rev limit up, should do 7000 rpm.......... for a minute or two lol

for a minute or 2???
what happens then .....BANG?????

[Rob_DOHC]

tbh i cannot tell you weather it is pulling 156 or not this is what "thegearboxman" told me with my tyre sizes and the rpm i was at because he worked it out

Yes, that is theoretical, if that works my 328 theoretically does 190 odd

Rob,

[trooper1991]

Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC

Yes, that is theoretical, if that works my 328 theoretically does 190 odd

Rob,

and where did u get that from?

[ZTSI]

how hard is it to fit a focus rs box to a cvh?

[Rob_DOHC]

what happens then .....BANG?????

One or many of your con rods (are they standard) shits its self, your block in normally its sphincter lol

Load on con rods rises dramatically with engine rpm, more boost is actually less stressful to a conrod than more rpm.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
Yes, that is theoretical, if that works my 328 theoretically does 190 odd

Rob,

and where did u get that from?

Well the car does 90mph @ 3000 rpm (auto with converter lock out) so therefor it must do 180mph at 6000 rpm and 190 @ the 6400k rev limit?

[Rick]

Originally Posted by ZTSI

how hard is it to fit a focus rs box to a cvh?

You can't it's rear starter.

[trooper1991]

Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC

One or many of your con rods (are they standard) shits its self, your block in normally its sphincter lol

Load on con rods rises dramatically with engine rpm, more boost is actually less stressful to a conrod than more rpm.



Well the car does 90mph @ 3000 rpm (auto with converter lock out) so therefor it must do 180mph at 6000 rpm and 190 @ the 6400k rev limit?

what does the car actually do at the rev limit??

[Rob_DOHC]

Oh SHIT, i've just checked my book and it says it only does 145!!!! WHATS WRONG!

you see my point, theoretical top speed as determined by gearing is very different to what the car can actually do. Your car will not do 156 as it cannot pull 6,000 rpm or what not in 5th. So messing with bigger wheels and different gearing at the moment means nothing to you.

Rob,

[Rob_DOHC]

Im sure it will do 156mph at the rev limit.... If only it could get to the rev limit

[Christian and Beccy]

So, with the way this thread is going, it will be more a case of who hasn't done 170mph soon then?

I'll be interested to revisit this at the end of the next season and see how many of the wannabee's actually managed to achieve it.

My CVH made 7000rpm to do 171mph. Oli's made 7400rpm to do 173mph. Takes some mean feat to get a CVH to not only hold itself together at that engine speed, let alone actually produce useful power up there. Infact my previous spec had the limiter set at 7400rpm, but the torque fell off at 7000rpm. The later spec was still going at 7200rpm.

I think to do 170+mph, you'll need to be making hefty torque, like 280lb/ft at 7000rpm and have the right gearing, along with all the other links in place.

The will to want to do it isn't enough. Trust me.

[Christian and Beccy]

Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC

Im sure it will do 156mph at the rev limit.... If only it could get to the rev limit

AND in the distance.

Doing 170mph is one thing, doing it AND stopping at Brunters is quite another.

If I'd have been given 2.5 miles THREE or FOUR years ago, I'd have done 180mph then and more recently 185+mph, but the point of the top speed record is that its a measured distance too.

[trooper1991]

Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC

Im sure it will do 156mph at the rev limit.... If only it could get to the rev limit

ok then pal tbh i aint really fussed i know what the motor does as i drive it and i have done it !!!!

[Rob_DOHC]

lol, Christian, your missing the point. My RST will have a 170 TERMINAL velocity and for under a ton. WATCH THIS SPACE.

[Christian and Beccy]

Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC

lol, Christian, your missing the point. My RST will have a 170 TERMINAL velocity and for under a ton. WATCH THIS SPACE.

[Rob_DOHC]

Look this car can do it too.

I think it will cost me under £100 to find a large enough cliff to win the rst top speed challenge.

Rob,

[Christian and Beccy]

Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC

Look this car can do it too.

I think it will cost me under £100 to find a large enough cliff to win the rst top speed challenge.

Rob,

Or maybe drive it out of the back of a Hercules at 30,000 feet, you might hit 300mph.

[morph]

Originally Posted by d4 rst

I THINK YOU MISS YOUR RST 350BHP YOU WAS TOP DOG ONE TIME.

I would if i had a 230bhp car to replace it with too!

[Rob_DOHC]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
Im sure it will do 156mph at the rev limit.... If only it could get to the rev limit

ok then pal tbh i aint really fussed i know what the motor does as i drive it and i have done it !!!!

lol got big hills in Spalding then?

Im only taking the piss mate, but seriously have a look through a few old posts by Christan and look at the effort he went to to get 170.

Then have a look through the performance form mag (i think its in pf not ff) at the achievements page, and look at the top speeds achieved by folks in there, i think 240-250 brake lets you touch your rev limit in 5th, but if your car does it then congrats it must be a fit little lump you have.

Rob,

[Rob_DOHC]

Quote:
Originally Posted by d4 rst
I THINK YOU MISS YOUR RST 350BHP YOU WAS TOP DOG ONE TIME.

I would if i had a 230bhp car to replace it with too!

Sorry guys i've got to be boring and say that 230 brake of new megan would be more fun than any rst i can think of to live with, it probable even handles too lol not as much character or style though

[Christian and Beccy]

Originally Posted by morph

I would if i had a 230bhp car to replace it with too!

A 230bhp car with loads of tuning potential IF I can be bothered to do it, but for now I can drive it whenever I want, in great comfort (proper Leather Recaro's, proper Xenons, Climate control etc etc). They have a MUCH better chassis out of the box than the RST too.

I do miss my RST in some ways, but generally not and if someone came along tomorrow and offered me a swap for the most sorted proper RST ever built, I'd still say no for sure.

[jonny s2]

i remember reading about a white s2 with severn valley stickers in 98 i think 300hp on k jet,and also ran stupid 11.99 sec quater miles at york race way

[franky_db]

Christian - Im also looking forward to seeing peoples attempts this year. Will be interesting. Definately looks like theres going to be a few burst bubbles.

[Christian and Beccy]

Originally Posted by jonny s2

i remember reading about a white s2 with severn valley stickers in 98 i think 300hp on k jet,and also ran stupid 11.99 sec quater miles at york race way

LOL, that was the one that did the spurious run. Only did that time ONCE that day and it really looked like a timing fault. Was alot of talk about it back then, can't remember the details, but certainly got discredited.

[trooper1991]

Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC

lol got big hills in Spalding then?

Im only taking the piss mate, but seriously have a look through a few old posts by Christan and look at the effort he went to to get 170.

Then have a look through the performance form mag (i think its in pf not ff) at the achievements page, and look at the top speeds achieved by folks in there, i think 240-250 brake lets you touch your rev limit in 5th, but if your car does it then congrats it must be a fit little lump you have.

Rob,

like i said i have no actual proof and im not making any stupid claims that i have something like 400hp or anything like that? i have never done a top speed run at brunters but hopefully will be going this year when i get my car all built up again, i have only had the car a year and tbh i am still not 100% sure what has been done to it i know its on my last printout 208bho with 230ft lbs of torque, its running on an mfi m2 and it has yes get this ...... 8 injectors which nobody seems to believe until they see but also i dont know if it has any great effect on the performance, the previous owner had this done?????

[Rob_DOHC]

...... 8 injectors which nobody seems to believe until they see but also i dont know if it has any great effect on the performance, the previous owner had this done?????

Sound interesting mate (genuinely and im not taking the piss) would love to see some photos if you could.

Rob,

[jonny s2]

i wouldnt really drive a 300bhp escort every day anyway,the reno is much newer and got more technology you cant really compare an 80s hot hatch with anything new, but you have done a good choice to go new skool

[trooper1991]

Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC

Sound interesting mate (genuinely and im not taking the piss) would love to see some photos if you could.

Rob,

yer sure u got an email address???

[jonny s2]

Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy

LOL, that was the one that did the spurious run. Only did that time ONCE that day and it really looked like a timing fault. Was alot of talk about it back then, can't remember the details, but certainly got discredited.

LOL yeah that was the one, more disbelief was fueled the fact it disapeared from the scene

[Rob_DOHC]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
Sound interesting mate (genuinely and im not taking the piss) would love to see some photos if you could.

Rob,

yer sure u got an email address???

Just PM'd you mate

[Christian and Beccy]

Top speed days always seem to have the same faces, but ever so often I've been and there have been a few new faces. Cars that are very little known and have all the promise of being great. I've seen cars arrive on trailers and I drive up in my little RST, with Beccy in the passenger seat and I really have thought many times 'this is it, this is the year I lose it'.

However, well, you all know the score. Only a handful of RST's have broken 160mph and only two with CVH engines have broken 170mph. Even including all those apparently serious cars that rocked up each year. Technology has come on, but not that much.

Most of these 'wannabees' manage circa 145-150mph at best.

[Christian and Beccy]

Additionally, for those that are wanting a serious crack at the CVH RST top speed, I reckon you'll need to make AT LEAST 120mph terminal speed (more like 125mph) at Santa Pod to stand a chance. Looking forward to seeing your slips!!

[trooper1991]

i wouldn't be going to beat anybody just too see wt my car can do

[rstdave]

You'll need to get invited by a mag to go to brunters unless you're thinking of hiring it out, and they don't seem to be bothering so much with rst thrashes and the like as often as they used to! I'm afraid i totally agree with chistian on this one lol, there's so few 1.6 rst's that have done any proven times and i've seen first hand cars with so called 300+ struggling to 150 let alone 160/170......have a look through the old daddy thrashes to see various cars with all the minerals on paper that are just slow, end of! I'm into trackdays rather than an unuseable topspeed car so know my car will never be good for it, but i'm sure it takes a LOT of r+d year on year to get the results, plenty of people could most likely do it of they bothered and had the time/money and inclination but not many ever achieve it all!

[Rob_DOHC]

I think passion members should all contribute and hire brunters for the day, 100 cars and some 0-60/speed runs and a big bbq would be a good day

[morph]

Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC

I think passion members should all contribute and hire brunters for the day, 100 cars and some 0-60/speed runs and a big bbq would be a good day

if i still have my car i will defo be up for this! good spring or summers day would be sweet!

[d4 rst]

Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC

I think passion members should all contribute and hire brunters for the day, 100 cars and some 0-60/speed runs and a big bbq would be a good day

THAT WILL BE GOOD DAY OUT AND WE CAN SEE WHAT ARE CARS CAN DO .

[Karlos G]

Originally Posted by trooper1991

8 injectors which nobody seems to believe until they see but also i dont know if it has any great effect on the performance, the previous owner had this done?????

Where you at Modified Nationals this year?
Black S2 fitted with a ERL MF2 unit running 4 additional injectors fabricated to the back of the MFI inlet manifold?

EDIT: last year not this year!! (2009) lol

[Rob_DOHC]

Black S2 fitted with a ERL MF2 unit running 4 additional injectors fabricated to the back of the MFI inlet manifold?

Ahhhhh i was wondering how the fuck this worked, thought some one might have used 4 additional standard injectors some how with some trick pressure regulator lol but your idea seems a lot more likely!

Rob,