For anyone interested in a hydraulic clutch conversion.... NEW TIP! 18.04.10
25-10-2009, 06:44 PM
#41
Yeah i've heard they are nice!
Last edited by Karlos G; 25-10-2009 at 07:29 PM.
25-10-2009, 07:47 PM
#42
Second thoughts......... having just seen a IB5 (Puma 1.7 to be exact) stripped, it's exactly the same as my BC box except larger bearings for the main shaft I believe.
So for the hassle of getting one and fitting my ATB diff, for very little gain I think i'll stick with my rebuilt BC box until it dies and then grab a IB5 with built in slave.
After all, I stripped teeth off my input shaft when i killed my last BC box and that is still the same!
But very good to know all these box options now i'm hydraulic!
So for the hassle of getting one and fitting my ATB diff, for very little gain I think i'll stick with my rebuilt BC box until it dies and then grab a IB5 with built in slave.
After all, I stripped teeth off my input shaft when i killed my last BC box and that is still the same!
But very good to know all these box options now i'm hydraulic!
Last edited by Karlos G; 26-10-2009 at 08:14 AM.
26-10-2009, 05:34 PM
#45
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were of to neps this weekend to have a tinkle on mine going to try do this a slight different way as to make it a simple bolt in conversion with a moddified pedal box instead so could be a conversion we can simply post out to people and they swap peddle box over and send old box back to us then convert for next person and so on, if all goes well i'll post some pics up for you all to see and dave if your round over weekend call by and see if you want a manifold for exhaust to, as mine will be done by then, full stainless for 250 can't grumble at that and proven to over 400bhp so far
26-10-2009, 11:36 PM
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Just a word about the wilwood master cylinders - make sure you've lined up the pushrod as straight as you can. I've had 3 or 4 fail now leaving me with no clutch, which leads me to believe they are either just shit, or they are very sensitive to misalignment.
The seals look fine on all of them, but the brake fluid goes dark grey and is full of ally. Witness marks on the metal pistons must mean that they are wearing the ally bore away causing sealing issues.
The seals look fine on all of them, but the brake fluid goes dark grey and is full of ally. Witness marks on the metal pistons must mean that they are wearing the ally bore away causing sealing issues.
27-10-2009, 08:14 AM
#49
Dont know but i'm using a Nissan 300zx TT slave.
Makes sense mate cheers, I think mine is pretty much spot on straight so hopefully wil be ok.
Just a word about the wilwood master cylinders - make sure you've lined up the pushrod as straight as you can. I've had 3 or 4 fail now leaving me with no clutch, which leads me to believe they are either just shit, or they are very sensitive to misalignment.
The seals look fine on all of them, but the brake fluid goes dark grey and is full of ally. Witness marks on the metal pistons must mean that they are wearing the ally bore away causing sealing issues.
The seals look fine on all of them, but the brake fluid goes dark grey and is full of ally. Witness marks on the metal pistons must mean that they are wearing the ally bore away causing sealing issues.
01-11-2009, 10:30 AM
#52
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Why's that Gary? I had a late MK5 escort IB5 box with a cable clutch, rear starter and bar shift and I did end up using it on a full zetec but can't remember any problems when I tested it on a CVH.
01-11-2009, 06:45 PM
#53
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the standard oil cooler is there we tried yesterday and today we tried a late ka box with front starter which fits but twists the engine so it looks like a focus rally car at an angle so this week were going to try the method in karlos's sixth pic at top of thread
Last edited by project rs; 01-11-2009 at 06:47 PM.
01-11-2009, 07:25 PM
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not try mate DO... i done the one in his pic lol.
02-11-2009, 02:04 AM
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12-03-2010, 12:15 PM
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I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
After reading your initial post I specced up fitting the system but I found this slave cylinder:
It's off a hyundai. I thought it would look more OEM when fitted as you can just trim down the clutch arm and fit it on a pivot pin over the arm. Just an idea for others!
Quality post though mate!
Lee
It's off a hyundai. I thought it would look more OEM when fitted as you can just trim down the clutch arm and fit it on a pivot pin over the arm. Just an idea for others!
Quality post though mate!
Lee
12-03-2010, 12:33 PM
#59
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I realised that pretty quickly when I thought about it after I posted lol
Very interested in this conversion. If the pedal servo holds up ok I'll be doing this to the RST for sure.
23-03-2010, 06:38 PM
#60
Just a final update!
Using a 0.75 MC with the Honda Prelude SC pictured it is way too heavy, I have dropped back to a 0.625 MC and is lighter now, although still heavy compared to other clutches but the AP Racing CP2000-35 is a very very heavy clutch in the first place!
I'm guessing a smaller slave cylinder would also lighten things up a bit too!
So if anyone needs a MC 0.75 thats done 35miles PM me.... £30 posted, was £50 from RD.
Using a 0.75 MC with the Honda Prelude SC pictured it is way too heavy, I have dropped back to a 0.625 MC and is lighter now, although still heavy compared to other clutches but the AP Racing CP2000-35 is a very very heavy clutch in the first place!
I'm guessing a smaller slave cylinder would also lighten things up a bit too!
So if anyone needs a MC 0.75 thats done 35miles PM me.... £30 posted, was £50 from RD.
Last edited by Karlos G; 23-03-2010 at 06:40 PM.
15-04-2010, 07:58 AM
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15-04-2010, 05:36 PM
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ricks is a .625 and its not heavy .mine is a .75 and thats not heavy feels like a standard focus . if your at the pod at the weekend pop over and have a go.
18-04-2010, 02:40 PM
#67
Whilst I was fitting my trusty XR3i gearbox today I took the opportunity to move the SC right to the end of the clutch release arm for some more leverage as it was still quite heavy, and now it's incredibley light!! I actually thought something was wrong when I first pressed the pedal and got out to check the pipe was still connected!! lol
Those extra couple of inches make all the difference
If you want to see where it was before check the first post.
lolThose extra couple of inches make all the difference
If you want to see where it was before check the first post.
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18-04-2010, 07:18 PM
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Karlos, can you not find a pull type slave cylinder and mount it where the cable would come through?? Would be much better instead of it dangling out in space.
Like this - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Wilwo...Q5fAccessories
You might have to search for one the right bore size though, to go with the master.
Like this - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Wilwo...Q5fAccessories
You might have to search for one the right bore size though, to go with the master.
28-10-2010, 12:17 PM
#73
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You'll need a proper hole cutter, just buy a cheap set from Wickes.
One thing I will say though is I don't think it's possible to drill the hole the same size as the master cylinder (so it fits perfectly with no excess area around the cylinder) and have it perfectly lined up in one go. I measured and measured mine and connecting it all up it's not quite 100% square. It's not far out, but just off. So, I will be making the hole slightly bigger so thats centered then make a mounting plate up to so on the bulkhead I think. I really don't want my cylinder failing due to slight misalignment.
One thing I will say though is I don't think it's possible to drill the hole the same size as the master cylinder (so it fits perfectly with no excess area around the cylinder) and have it perfectly lined up in one go. I measured and measured mine and connecting it all up it's not quite 100% square. It's not far out, but just off. So, I will be making the hole slightly bigger so thats centered then make a mounting plate up to so on the bulkhead I think. I really don't want my cylinder failing due to slight misalignment.
28-10-2010, 12:21 PM
#75
muz....
that maifold you have from crazycage, and are you using a T34.48 ? i have just got a manifold from gary (crazycage) do you just rotate the compressor housing on the turbo to line it up? also what did you do for the actuator bracket?
that maifold you have from crazycage, and are you using a T34.48 ? i have just got a manifold from gary (crazycage) do you just rotate the compressor housing on the turbo to line it up? also what did you do for the actuator bracket?
28-10-2010, 02:01 PM
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Yes, I'm using a T34 .48 Cossie housing. With the manifold, I've spun the core and housing around. The alternator bracket will have to be fabricated. I haven't done this yet. I do have a standard mount which I'm going to see if I can modify. If not, I'll make one from scratch.
Last edited by muz; 28-10-2010 at 02:02 PM.
28-10-2010, 08:40 PM
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for a 2.1 zvh with say 250 to 300 hp is the focus rs box the best to go for. what flywheel do you use and would i need to cut the chassis leg on my s2. what driveshafts are the best to use.
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