For those interested in MegaSquirt EFI...

[Karlos G]

Pic of the pulley added to the top of this thread, and settings for Ford EFi sensors (coolant,ACT).

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[Karlos G]

Bought a Wideband Lambda and controller today, just need to knock up some Det Cans and i'll be able to play around with tuning myself!

This one:
http://trigger-wheels.com/store/inde...FZkA4wodfyBx_Q

Although I didnt pay that for it

[rst in breaking]

best of luck with conversion mate

[Karlos G]

Cheers mate!
Just about to go and buy some cable and i'll be starting the conversion!

[studabear]

Are you going ford fair karlos?

[Karlos G]

Yes mate I am, will be on the Driving Sports stand.
Conversion is all done!! Just about to go and plug in the laptop and see if she fires up!

Excluding breaks it has taken 6 Hours, not too bad at all!

[Antti O]

How about my msq files, any help?
Did you get that file open

[Chris69]

nice one karlos i'll be at ford fair on the FEOC stand- i'll be sure to come and say hello

[Karlos G]

Originally Posted by Antti O

How about my msq files, any help?
Did you get that file open

They just gave errors and wouldnt open properly

Originally Posted by Chris69

nice one karlos i'll be at ford fair on the FEOC stand- i'll be sure to come and say hello

Yes mate!

Anyway................ it runs!!!!!

[Garage19]

So are you driving over to mine then??? lol

Well done mate.

[Antti O]

Originally Posted by Karlos G

They just gave errors and wouldnt open properly



Yes mate!

Anyway................ it runs!!!!!

Okay. My ms version is "old" v2.2 and if you have that ms-2 or ms3 i believe thats reason.

[studabear]

Nice 1 karlos, I bet your well pleased it's up and running

[Karlos G]

Originally Posted by Antti O

Okay. My ms version is "old" v2.2 and if you have that ms-2 or ms3 i believe thats reason.

Yes thats what I think.

Originally Posted by studabear

Nice 1 karlos, I bet your well pleased it's up and running

I am mate! Will be properly mapped tomorrow and so should be kicking out something between 210bhp and 230bhp!

You wouldnt beleive how much more space is in the engine bay now the metering unit, fuel accumulator, etc... has all gone!

[studabear]

just been to the meet at trafford centre, mine doesn't feel quick anymore, at times it does but its needing more oomph, so with this conversion done over the winter it should be a lot better

[Antti O]

Originally Posted by Karlos G

Yes thats what I think.

I am mate! Will be properly mapped tomorrow and so should be kicking out something between 210bhp and 230bhp!

You wouldnt beleive how much more space is in the engine bay now the metering unit, fuel accumulator, etc... has all gone!

Right place for ke-jet.. recycle bin

[Karlos G]

yeah it's a piece of piss, once you have all the parts ready it's literally a days work at the most!

[Antti O]

Originally Posted by Karlos G

yeah it's a piece of piss, once you have all the parts ready it's literally a days work at the most!

We built it about one week in evenings, all wiring is double protected and harness goes all the time in protective pipe. All connecting points are soldered and we use that.. hmm i dont know english word, anyway that black tube which shrinks when warmed. I have main relays nicely available in firewall and fuses in order too. Manifold itself does not take long time to install because efi head direct fitment. Wiring when doing properly takes time.

[andy130]

a few things to ask mate
do u get all the plugs for it?
do u think it would be better to bin my ofab for it?

[Karlos G]

Originally Posted by Antti O

We built it about one week in evenings, all wiring is double protected and harness goes all the time in protective pipe. All connecting points are soldered and we use that.. hmm i dont know english word, anyway that black tube which shrinks when warmed. I have main relays nicely available in firewall and fuses in order too. Manifold itself does not take long time to install because efi head direct fitment. Wiring when doing properly takes time.

Yes that is mostly how I did mine, the english word for shrinks when heated is 'Heat Shrink' lol

Originally Posted by andy130

a few things to ask mate
do u get all the plugs for it?
do u think it would be better to bin my ofab for it?

Nope had to use plugs from a old loom although you can buy them new!
OFAB and OFAC cannot be live mapped so your power is limited by what chip you can buy, and all you can adjust is the base fuel pressure!
IMO it's a pointless conversion when you can go Megasquirt, Gotech, Omex, VEMS, etc... which can al be live mapped!

[andy130]

thanks
how much are u talking for ecu ect as i a frst?

[Karlos G]

All detailed in my first post mate, take a peek!

[crazycage]

Originally Posted by Karlos G

Yes that is mostly how I did mine, the english word for shrinks when heated is 'Heat Shrink' lol


Nope had to use plugs from a old loom although you can buy them new!
OFAB and OFAC cannot be live mapped so your power is limited by what chip you can buy, and all you can adjust is the base fuel pressure!
IMO it's a pointless conversion when you can go Megasquirt, Gotech, Omex, VEMS, etc... which can al be live mapped!

o-fab can be mapped if you no where to take it

[Karlos G]

Oh, really? I didnt know that!

[rstel1]

wehey!!! nice one karlos how does she feel on the road now?

[Garage19]

Originally Posted by crazycage

o-fab can be mapped if you no where to take it

.... and hand over lots of cash. Everytime you change your engine spec.

[Karlos G]

Originally Posted by rstel1

wehey!!! nice one karlos how does she feel on the road now?

Dont know yet! lol
Literally on got it fired up yesterday and then had to go out, today i've been extremely hung over and so havent played with it at all.
Doug (Garage19) is coming over tomorrow night and we are going to map it so I'll let you know how we get on!

[juffer]

karlos, How exactly have you wired up your EDIS? and what are your megatune setings to run it?

[bomsch]

Done my 1,8zvh conversion with V2,2. Cost me with Innovate Lc-1 kit ~430Ł
However it`s quite hard to get it run properly. I mean not standing and running in your garage, but on the road with 1+ boost without melting down your engine.
My setup:
Xr3 Efi head, ported
FRST inlet manifold
350cc @ 3bar Saab Injectors
Malpassi FPR
Walbro 255l/h fuel pump
Ms V2,2 with EDIS
EFI flywheel 1,8 zetec.
Air temp/Coolant temp sensors- GM (Ms default, no worries with calibrating)
Lc-1 DB-kit.

[rickbartlett]

keep us posted karlos on what bhp she makes mate

[Antti O]

Originally Posted by bomsch

Done my 1,8zvh conversion with V2,2. Cost me with Innovate Lc-1 kit ~430Ł
However it`s quite hard to get it run properly. I mean not standing and running in your garage, but on the road with 1+ boost without melting down your engine.
My setup:
Xr3 Efi head, ported
FRST inlet manifold
350cc @ 3bar Saab Injectors
Malpassi FPR
Walbro 255l/h fuel pump
Ms V2,2 with EDIS
EFI flywheel 1,8 zetec.
Air temp/Coolant temp sensors- GM (Ms default, no worries with calibrating)
Lc-1 DB-kit.

Hi!

Do gm sensors fit directly to efi inlet manifold?

[Garage19]

Originally Posted by bomsch

Done my 1,8zvh conversion with V2,2. Cost me with Innovate Lc-1 kit ~430Ł
However it`s quite hard to get it run properly. I mean not standing and running in your garage, but on the road with 1+ boost without melting down your engine.
My setup:
Xr3 Efi head, ported
FRST inlet manifold
350cc @ 3bar Saab Injectors
Malpassi FPR
Walbro 255l/h fuel pump
Ms V2,2 with EDIS
EFI flywheel 1,8 zetec.
Air temp/Coolant temp sensors- GM (Ms default, no worries with calibrating)
Lc-1 DB-kit.

To be honest i always think it is the other way round. To get it running at all is the hard bit and achieving a nice idle can be pretty trick too sometimes.

Mapping for 1 bar WOT is the easy bit i if you have the right equipment.

[Garage19]

Originally Posted by juffer

karlos, How exactly have you wired up your EDIS? and what are your megatune setings to run it?

Karl is not running EDIS. He has coil drivers built into the ECU.

[Karlos G]

Originally Posted by juffer

karlos, How exactly have you wired up your EDIS? and what are your megatune setings to run it?

As Garage19 says i'm using a Zetec coil pack driven directly of the MS ECU.

Originally Posted by bomsch

Done my 1,8zvh conversion with V2,2. Cost me with Innovate Lc-1 kit ~430Ł
However it`s quite hard to get it run properly. I mean not standing and running in your garage, but on the road with 1+ boost without melting down your engine.
My setup:
Xr3 Efi head, ported
FRST inlet manifold
350cc @ 3bar Saab Injectors
Malpassi FPR
Walbro 255l/h fuel pump
Ms V2,2 with EDIS
EFI flywheel 1,8 zetec.
Air temp/Coolant temp sensors- GM (Ms default, no worries with calibrating)
Lc-1 DB-kit.

I wont know until tonight just how easy or hard it is, but TBH it's looks easy! If your AFR's too high surely you just increase the fuelling in the VE table?
Unless your on the limit of your injectors or fuel pump?

Originally Posted by rickbartlett

keep us posted karlos on what bhp she makes mate

Will do mate but wont be for a few weeks, it's being mapped on the road so i'll have to book it in somewhere for a power run to see what BHP i'm actually making.

[crazycage]

Originally Posted by Garage19

.... and hand over lots of cash. Everytime you change your engine spec.

i no that and if the car didnt come with o-fab i wouldnt go putting it onto other cars but it can be mapped. m-s will be on my car next year.

p-s i dont run o-fab.

[bomsch]

Originally Posted by Antti O

Hi!

Do gm sensors fit directly to efi inlet manifold?

Yep.
My map signal is jumping up and down @ 5000+ rpm.
At least i dont get VR trigger errors (common problem).
For now new LUK clutch kit with uprated coatings slips thru after 0,8bar boost. After fixing this problem i will go to dyno and hope to see around 270hp

[Marts]

Nice One Karlos

You said it would be done in a day, and it was... just a shame that a few weeks got inbetween the day said and the day complete

Good luck with the set-up and enjoy the new 'chatter'

Again, just goes to show that if the time and effort is put into doing your homework first, anything is possible! Well done Mate.

[xr2wishy]

i'm running rover 600 injectors on my 1.8zvh on megasquirt II v3.0 with extra code therefore 16*16 tables, getting it to idle nicely is a pain in the arse, as is to not overfuel on throttle.
on part throttle and i mean 2% ish it dies, and i'm using a vems wideband and that doesn't want to communicate with laptop.
tis a fiddly task this efi lark.

[Karlos G]

Cheers Marts! lol

I'd forgotten about chatter! Bonus!

[Rick]

Originally Posted by xr2wishy

i'm running rover 600 injectors on my 1.8zvh on megasquirt II v3.0 with extra code therefore 16*16 tables, getting it to idle nicely is a pain in the arse, as is to not overfuel on throttle.
on part throttle and i mean 2% ish it dies, and i'm using a vems wideband and that doesn't want to communicate with laptop.
tis a fiddly task this efi lark.

Those are the bits where the skill is. Making power is easy.

[rstel1]

Originally Posted by Karlos G

Dont know yet! lol
Literally on got it fired up yesterday and then had to go out, today i've been extremely hung over and so havent played with it at all.
Doug (Garage19) is coming over tomorrow night and we are going to map it so I'll let you know how we get on!

nothing like a good blast in your car to shake off a hangover