How to upgrade to cossie brakes (Updated 27/07/2011) - Page 3

rs shawn · 04-07-2007, 11:02 AM

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bluescortcossie · 19-10-2007, 03:57 PM

are you sure they are 1mm washers as they look wider

if so where on earth can i find some , i have been everywhere and the smallest i could find were 2.4 mm

PFseries1 · 22-10-2007, 09:35 PM

I have a Rs Turbo series 1, i was just wondering will the cossie callipers fit ok behind the standard wheels. I was looking into doing the conversion as the standard brakes are terible!!!! I have not seen any second hand callipers for sale lately, i was at Ford ......fair and no joy in parts and spairs.

rs shawn · 23-10-2007, 07:01 PM

Pretty certain they will fit.

Get some pics up of your car mate.

marky_g · 29-10-2007, 10:35 PM

can u use 4x4 discs?

SafeChav · 30-10-2007, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PFseries1

I have a Rs Turbo series 1, i was just wondering will the cossie callipers fit ok behind the standard wheels. I was looking into doing the conversion as the standard brakes are terible!!!! I have not seen any second hand callipers for sale lately, i was at Ford ......fair and no joy in parts and spairs.

4wd calipers with 2wd discs and spacer brackets will, 2wd 4 pots WON'T, or at least not easily.

marky_g - don't think so, but don't quote me. They will be a different size i expect.

marky_g · 07-11-2007, 07:36 PM

what braided lines do i use 4x4 cossie or rs turbo

mentalasanything · 07-11-2007, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marky_g

what braided lines do i use 4x4 cossie or rs turbo

I used RS Turbo ones

Lee

The Geordie Funster · 20-11-2007, 10:17 PM

Alright guys, ive read this a few times now and its as clear as mud to me at the min...maybe im to tired or could be im missin a brain cell at the min!!!

I have escort cosworth discs and calipers to go on my series 1 what do you recon have i bought the right stuff or dropped a bollock???

rs shawn · 21-11-2007, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mentalasanything

You will need:-

• Escort/Sierra Cossie 4x4 calipers & carriers
• Escort/Sierra Cossie 4x4 Pads
• Sierra 2wd Cossie 283mm Disks

If the discs are 283mm then should be ok......altho I'm not sure if the centres are different between Esc & Sierra or exactly the same fitment/ diameter.

MorryRS · 21-11-2007, 02:47 PM

How do you fit the cossie 4 pots to a S2 ?

I am needing a vast improvement in my brakes, im sure i read it somewhere before but i have forgot.

Any info appreciated

anodised · 22-11-2007, 12:43 PM

im trying to fit 4pot cossy to a mk4 escort at the min

from what ive found you need to machine about 4-5mm ish off the mount

then it just bolts on

im using 2wd disks i will let you know how i get on

MorryRS · 22-11-2007, 01:19 PM

anodised

look foward to hearing how you get on with it . any info would be useful

anodised · 22-11-2007, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorryRS

anodised

look foward to hearing how you get on with it . any info would be useful

ok mate ive got the calipers and disks all mounted will get pic up 2moro

its not as easy as the 4x4 brakes to do cause thats what i did have on it

mercury xr · 22-11-2007, 10:57 PM

I have a mk4 XR3i, hoping to have bigish turbo conversion soon n all that jazz, so will be wanting bigger brakes what i was wondering is;

is there a differance between RS Turbo braided brake hoses and XR3i hoses?

Cheers

MorryRS · 23-11-2007, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anodised

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorryRS

anodised

look foward to hearing how you get on with it . any info would be useful

ok mate ive got the calipers and disks all mounted will get pic up 2moro

its not as easy as the 4x4 brakes to do cause thats what i did have on it

Excellent much appreciated

h5kcd · 28-11-2007, 09:45 PM

ive got 2wd discs and calipers on the front of my erst s1 all you do is grind 4-5mm off the inside of the caliper mounting face and then get suitable lock nuts and bolts to hold them on but ive had to use 5mm wheel spacers as ive got 17" softlines on because the caliper was to close to the wheel as is when fitting softlines on a 2wd cos

Red_bull · 08-01-2008, 02:33 PM

Hello guys,

I went to a race and rally shop in the netherlands and they can supply me the ferrodo D2500 serie from the 4x4 and the also can supply grooved and drilled 283 mm discs.

The problem is they can supply it in two different hights
around 44 mm and 56 mm hight of the total disc.

Can somebody tell me which hight i need to order, because i don't want to order the wrong ones because they are specially orderd. And it takes 4 to 5 weeks to get them

Please help me

sexr3i · 08-01-2008, 04:13 PM

never had to use a spacer washer on my set...

want a guide on the rears?

mercury xr · 08-01-2008, 05:22 PM

Yer do a guide on the rears chap!

Red_bull · 08-01-2008, 06:03 PM

up for the question

I went to a race and rally shop in the netherlands and they can supply me the ferrodo D2500 serie from the 4x4 and the also can supply grooved and drilled 283 mm discs.

The problem is they can supply it in two different hights
around 44 mm and 56 mm hight of the total disc.

Can somebody tell me which hight i need to order, because i don't want to order the wrong ones because they are specially orderd. And it takes 4 to 5 weeks to get them

Please help me

Red_bull · 09-01-2008, 09:31 AM

bump

Need to order them quick

Red_bull · 14-01-2008, 03:28 PM

still no1?

sexr3i · 14-01-2008, 04:23 PM

around 44 mm and 56 mm hight of the total disc.

what is the disk height?

Red_bull · 14-01-2008, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexr3i

what is the disk height?

I'm almost 100% sure it's 55 but i want to know for sure

http://autosportcompany.nl/viewdetai...6403&afdid=515

Here you got a dutch site that gives 55 mm, but i don't know why they also got the around 44 total hight...

sexr3i · 15-01-2008, 12:09 PM

ahhhh, offset...

44mm will be the 4x4 disks then I reckon.

Red_bull · 15-01-2008, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexr3i

ahhhh, offset...

haha ok i'm sorry, but i'm still a dutchman

marky_g · 16-01-2008, 08:40 PM

will all v6 mondeo mk2 calipers be the same as 4x4/ecos or just the st's

marky_g · 16-01-2008, 08:56 PM

need a def answer on this as i have a 2 blokes waiting on replys

so st mondeo/v6 and granny cossie/scorpio will be ok????

marky_g · 21-01-2008, 09:08 PM

can no one shead anymore light on this plesae about the mondy/scporio calipers?

SafeChav · 24-01-2008, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexr3i

never had to use a spacer washer on my set...

If you read what he said he does say 2wd calipers, NOT 4wd calipers which is what you have pictured

sexr3i · 24-01-2008, 08:29 PM

who says? Thread is about 4x4 calipers all round? If you use 2wd calipers you need the opposite to a spacer, to grind yer hub carrier...

What you got fitted on that cab of yours?

sexr3i · 24-01-2008, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marky_g

can no one shead anymore light on this plesae about the mondy/scporio calipers?

I reckon you can use pretty much any rear caliper as long as the mounting hole lines up with your bracket. the only difference will be the offset of the disk, and so the size of the spacer. Just use the disk from the same car as the caliper or you might end up only pinching the outside edge of the disk.

SafeChav · 08-02-2008, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexr3i

What you got fitted on that cab of yours?

2wd set up all round.

MorryRS · 12-02-2008, 09:44 AM

Safechav

I have 2WD Discs and calipers to fit to my S2 . I have offered them up and as mentioned before i looks like i need to machine the caliper a bit to fit . Is this the way to do it from your experience as you have them fitted??

Many thanks

Kenny

Schmidi · 15-02-2008, 02:01 PM

If I want to use 283mm Sierra Cosworth 2WD brake discs on an MK4 with the original Escort RST S2 calipers, then I have to use front caliper mounting brackets, as shown here: http://www.rsrich.force9.co.uk/zetec-turbo/sale.htm

Unfortunately they do not answer to any questions, or orders.

Could anyone help me, and tell me the measuements of this bracket, so I can have it done by a local shop?

antony215 · 19-02-2008, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorryRS

Safechav

I have 2WD Discs and calipers to fit to my S2 . I have offered them up and as mentioned before i looks like i need to machine the caliper a bit to fit . Is this the way to do it from your experience as you have them fitted??

Many thanks

Kenny

4mm needs to be machined off the mating edge of the caliper

MorryRS · 19-02-2008, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antony215

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorryRS

Safechav

I have 2WD Discs and calipers to fit to my S2 . I have offered them up and as mentioned before i looks like i need to machine the caliper a bit to fit . Is this the way to do it from your experience as you have them fitted??

Many thanks

Kenny

4mm needs to be machined off the mating edge of the caliper

Cool exactly 4mm is it -milled i suppose -then fix the caliper on with a bolt and nut??

antony215 · 19-02-2008, 10:29 AM

The hubs need the holes taped to M12

MorryRS · 19-02-2008, 11:00 AM

Right is that to use the 2wd caliper bolts which i dont have ?. LOL

19-10-2007, 03:57 PM	#82
bluescortcossie I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: derbyshire Posts: 1,192 Rep Power: 8	are you sure they are 1mm washers as they look wider if so where on earth can i find some , i have been everywhere and the smallest i could find were 2.4 mm __________________

22-10-2007, 09:35 PM	#83
PFseries1 15000 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	I have a Rs Turbo series 1, i was just wondering will the cossie callipers fit ok behind the standard wheels. I was looking into doing the conversion as the standard brakes are terible!!!! I have not seen any second hand callipers for sale lately, i was at Ford ......fair and no joy in parts and spairs. __________________ RS Turbo series 1

23-10-2007, 07:01 PM	#84
rs shawn S1 Database Editor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 6,447 Rep Power: 14	Pretty certain they will fit. Get some pics up of your car mate. __________________ D plate S1 Click Here For The Series One Picture Database www.seriesoneturbo.co.uk - the site that caters for all Mk3 Escorts.

29-10-2007, 10:35 PM	#85
marky_g Fleet Manager Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Thurrock Essex Posts: 5,351 Rep Power: 13	can u use 4x4 discs? __________________ Click to see my RS Turbo project http://passionford.com/forum/showthr..._g#post3406438

07-11-2007, 07:36 PM	#87
marky_g Fleet Manager Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Thurrock Essex Posts: 5,351 Rep Power: 13	what braided lines do i use 4x4 cossie or rs turbo __________________ Click to see my RS Turbo project http://passionford.com/forum/showthr..._g#post3406438

20-11-2007, 10:17 PM	#89
The Geordie Funster 15000 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Shields Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	Alright guys, ive read this a few times now and its as clear as mud to me at the min...maybe im to tired or could be im missin a brain cell at the min!!! I have escort cosworth discs and calipers to go on my series 1 what do you recon have i bought the right stuff or dropped a bollock???

21-11-2007, 02:47 PM	#91
MorryRS Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ardrossan Posts: 258 Rep Power: 5	How do you fit the cossie 4 pots to a S2 ? I am needing a vast improvement in my brakes, im sure i read it somewhere before but i have forgot. Any info appreciated __________________ White S2 Turbo R.I.P Miami Blue S2 Turbo Still here

22-11-2007, 12:43 PM	#92
anodised Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Northants Posts: 964 Rep Power: 7	im trying to fit 4pot cossy to a mk4 escort at the min from what ive found you need to machine about 4-5mm ish off the mount then it just bolts on im using 2wd disks i will let you know how i get on __________________ playstation 3 username = anodised crap username i know my real name is Lewis im dyslexic but i do try

22-11-2007, 01:19 PM	#93
MorryRS Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ardrossan Posts: 258 Rep Power: 5	anodised look foward to hearing how you get on with it . any info would be useful __________________ White S2 Turbo R.I.P Miami Blue S2 Turbo Still here

22-11-2007, 10:57 PM	#95
mercury xr Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2007 Location: Nottingham Posts: 300 Rep Power: 5	I have a mk4 XR3i, hoping to have bigish turbo conversion soon n all that jazz, so will be wanting bigger brakes what i was wondering is; is there a differance between RS Turbo braided brake hoses and XR3i hoses? Cheers

28-11-2007, 09:45 PM	#97
h5kcd Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2006 Location: selby north yorkshire Posts: 85 Rep Power: 6	ive got 2wd discs and calipers on the front of my erst s1 all you do is grind 4-5mm off the inside of the caliper mounting face and then get suitable lock nuts and bolts to hold them on but ive had to use 5mm wheel spacers as ive got 17" softlines on because the caliper was to close to the wheel as is when fitting softlines on a 2wd cos

08-01-2008, 02:33 PM	#98
Red_bull Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 616 Rep Power: 6	Hello guys, I went to a race and rally shop in the netherlands and they can supply me the ferrodo D2500 serie from the 4x4 and the also can supply grooved and drilled 283 mm discs. The problem is they can supply it in two different hights around 44 mm and 56 mm hight of the total disc. Can somebody tell me which hight i need to order, because i don't want to order the wrong ones because they are specially orderd. And it takes 4 to 5 weeks to get them Please help me __________________ " Dream as if you live forever, live as if you die today. " Check my project on http://passionford.com/forum/restorations-rebuilds-and-projects/207111-big-s2-rs-turbo-project-finished-lots-of-pics.html

08-01-2008, 04:13 PM	#99
sexr3i isn't it Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Nuneaton, Warks Posts: 590 Rep Power: 7	never had to use a spacer washer on my set... want a guide on the rears? __________________ 89 3i zetec mk3 toy http://www.passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=161433

08-01-2008, 05:22 PM	#100
mercury xr Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2007 Location: Nottingham Posts: 300 Rep Power: 5	Yer do a guide on the rears chap! __________________ Which gimp changed this?

08-01-2008, 06:03 PM	#101
Red_bull Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 616 Rep Power: 6	up for the question I went to a race and rally shop in the netherlands and they can supply me the ferrodo D2500 serie from the 4x4 and the also can supply grooved and drilled 283 mm discs. The problem is they can supply it in two different hights around 44 mm and 56 mm hight of the total disc. Can somebody tell me which hight i need to order, because i don't want to order the wrong ones because they are specially orderd. And it takes 4 to 5 weeks to get them Please help me __________________ " Dream as if you live forever, live as if you die today. " Check my project on http://passionford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=207111

09-01-2008, 09:31 AM	#102
Red_bull Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 616 Rep Power: 6	bump Need to order them quick __________________ " Dream as if you live forever, live as if you die today. " Check my project on http://passionford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=207111

14-01-2008, 03:28 PM	#103
Red_bull Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 616 Rep Power: 6	still no1? __________________ " Dream as if you live forever, live as if you die today. " Check my project on http://passionford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=207111

14-01-2008, 04:23 PM	#104
sexr3i isn't it Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Nuneaton, Warks Posts: 590 Rep Power: 7	around 44 mm and 56 mm hight of the total disc. what is the disk height? __________________ 89 3i zetec mk3 toy http://www.passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=161433

15-01-2008, 12:09 PM	#106
sexr3i isn't it Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Nuneaton, Warks Posts: 590 Rep Power: 7	ahhhh, offset... 44mm will be the 4x4 disks then I reckon. __________________ 89 3i zetec mk3 toy http://www.passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=161433

16-01-2008, 08:40 PM	#108
marky_g Fleet Manager Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Thurrock Essex Posts: 5,351 Rep Power: 13	will all v6 mondeo mk2 calipers be the same as 4x4/ecos or just the st's __________________ Click to see my RS Turbo project http://passionford.com/forum/showthr..._g#post3406438

16-01-2008, 08:56 PM	#109
marky_g Fleet Manager Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Thurrock Essex Posts: 5,351 Rep Power: 13	need a def answer on this as i have a 2 blokes waiting on replys so st mondeo/v6 and granny cossie/scorpio will be ok???? __________________ Click to see my RS Turbo project http://passionford.com/forum/showthr..._g#post3406438

21-01-2008, 09:08 PM	#110
marky_g Fleet Manager Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Thurrock Essex Posts: 5,351 Rep Power: 13	can no one shead anymore light on this plesae about the mondy/scporio calipers? __________________ Click to see my RS Turbo project http://passionford.com/forum/showthr..._g#post3406438

24-01-2008, 08:29 PM	#112
sexr3i isn't it Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Nuneaton, Warks Posts: 590 Rep Power: 7	who says? Thread is about 4x4 calipers all round? If you use 2wd calipers you need the opposite to a spacer, to grind yer hub carrier... What you got fitted on that cab of yours? __________________ 89 3i zetec mk3 toy http://www.passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=161433

12-02-2008, 09:44 AM	#115
MorryRS Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ardrossan Posts: 258 Rep Power: 5	Safechav I have 2WD Discs and calipers to fit to my S2 . I have offered them up and as mentioned before i looks like i need to machine the caliper a bit to fit . Is this the way to do it from your experience as you have them fitted?? Many thanks Kenny __________________ White S2 Turbo R.I.P Miami Blue S2 Turbo Still here

15-02-2008, 02:01 PM	#116
Schmidi 15000 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	If I want to use 283mm Sierra Cosworth 2WD brake discs on an MK4 with the original Escort RST S2 calipers, then I have to use front caliper mounting brackets, as shown here: http://www.rsrich.force9.co.uk/zetec-turbo/sale.htm Unfortunately they do not answer to any questions, or orders. Could anyone help me, and tell me the measuements of this bracket, so I can have it done by a local shop?

19-02-2008, 10:29 AM	#119
antony215 Escort Rs Turbo Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2005 Location: PORTSMOUTH Posts: 3,492 Rep Power: 10	The hubs need the holes taped to M12 __________________

19-02-2008, 11:00 AM	#120
MorryRS Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ardrossan Posts: 258 Rep Power: 5	Right is that to use the 2wd caliper bolts which i dont have ?. LOL __________________ White S2 Turbo R.I.P Miami Blue S2 Turbo Still here

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