Dan

As above, I personally thought that the Motorsport edition's didn't have them but I looked at a Large Turbo Motorsport version that had one, so clearly i'm mistaken!

Whats the difference between the different editions aswell, I can think of Motorsport, Lux & Monte Carlo...

Azrael

Motorsport ones don't have them.

Dan

This one advertised can't be a motorsport version then

'll try and find the link and you can have a look for yourself mate...

Azrael

Maybe it had roof swap?

Dave Henshall

yep, some motorsport cars have had a roof grafted on with a sunroof .

Azrael

After being rolled, or without it?

Dan

Cant find the bloody link now, it was a car for sale at Junction 28 if anyone knows them

Dave Henshall

no, some unscrupulios people fit a sunroof roof panel and then sell a much cheaper motorsport shelled car off as a lux model.

Azrael

Well roof canging isn't that easy :-/ And can be properly fucked up ...

Dan

Are the Motorsport's generally cheaper then, and as a rule of thumb do they have no sunroofs and the lux's have them?

Damo V

As above All Escort Cosworths have a sunroof except the motorsport versions

Dan

Cheers Damo!

PAUL V

my 1995 lux Lhd one does not have 1 ?

Damo V

maybe things were different on the continent... or it didnt start life as a lux

PAUL V

It has aways been a lux it was owend by Ford of gearmany and was 1 of there show cars, but never got a answer of them why no roof!

Damo V

prob just cos LHD... they did quite a few things differently on the LHD cars..

Azrael

Don't think so. Seen some original folders from dealerships and there are only lether and heated seats listed as optional and on later cars rear wing.

Dan

So now we've half established that English built Escort's didn't/shouldn't have sunroofs, what colours did the motorsport versions come in?

Azrael

All Escorts were assembled in Karmann Germany.


Motorsport schould be white only.

Dan

I'm after (not just yet, but soon) a Large Turbo Imperial Blue Escort Cos with no sunroof, I don't want the bloody sunroof as I will strip it and have a proper cage in there!

Might have to get a white one and respray it, will have to come apart for the cage to be welded in anyway!

Azrael

Maybe you schould just buy stripped rallycar - will be cheaper and respray it? It's getting waste of money to strip good road cars this dys.

Dan

Rally Cars are alot more money tho arnt they mate? Howe much hassle would it be to make it road legal?

Azrael

Old Group N car schouldn't be worth much.


I don't knw how it looks like in UK but generally rallycars have to be legal on road as they must do road stages during the rally, that is what is the difference between rallying and circut racing and that's why rallying is far more enjoyable



By the way - this one is probbaly free by your standards:


http://www.rajdy.hoga.pl/big_fot.asp...e.asp?id=48242

It's for sale for 18 000PLN which is about 3000GBP. It's Grp N rallycar, I wouldn't expect it to be in particularily good shape though. But there may be similar ones to be found in UK.

Dan

Doesn't look to bad, I think there's one for sale at the moment over here for about Ł8,500.00

Still alot cheaper than a second hand road going version I guess!

Azrael

Think about it. It may be even cheaper to buy rolling shell from people like TF Rallyesport and have a track/rally car assembled from parts - you won't need SO MANY parts of a road car, why pay for them?


What you need is straight shell without any serious rust in the important elements. You proably would bin most of the suspention and transmission elements of road car, or have them checked over so they don't blow up on the track.

Dan

Good thinking, I would want to drive the bloody thing straight away tho lol, and having to build one up from a shell could still be a costly exercise!

Azrael

So maybe y9ou just need race radyy, low spec rallycar. It will be registered, it will have MOT or whatever it's called and it schould be cheaper then road car, especially after FIA homologation for Escos ended.

Dan

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/WWW...ch_full=SEARCH

Have a look at that one mate, would be ideal if I had Ł8,250 now!

Shame it purple but you can't have it all!

Azrael

You usually see mostly interior of you racing car. So who cares? It's nice if it looks nice, of course but it's more important to have lots of stickers there - stickers that pay :-D

Azrael

This one looks great. Probably much better drive then I could possibly imagine

Dan

I was only joking about the Purple Jakob lol

What do mean stickers etc, and one's that pay? Do you mean sponsorship?

Azrael

I am joking too Of course I really like good looking cars, and even rallycaris much better if good looking. But it's most important for it to be good ride.



Yep, usually people in motorsport look at the most stickeredcar and think - well this one must have a big budget, sometimes they are wrong, but sometimes they are right. WHen I helped at rallycross service the whole car with stickered in Castrol stickers and they gave two boxes of fluids a seazon and two suits for mechanics.... and that was it

Dan

Very True

I'm not overly keen on stickered up cars, I know rally car's are but I hope mine to be more for the track and road then beating up round a forest or something lol

Azrael

I prefer tarmac from gravel Tarmac rallycars look much better too

Dan

Yeah I totally agree mate, I prefer the full WRC kit to the normal cosworth one aswell, I love the look of them with the higher rolled arches etc

Azrael

I don't rally like the WRC kit but it has it's areodynamic pluses, apart from removing rear visibility it can be nice as it is said to make the stability better when going sideways at high speeds ;-D


Anyway you need healthy body and good suspention, tramission and engine to pull it all, later you can take car about such extravaganza

Dan

That will keep me going for some time!

Frendo

so which one is the most expensive to buy, lux; monte; or motorsport? I'm trying to buy one, but first I have to know about them. Any help?

SillyFezzaMk1

iTrader: (1)

the shell I recently purchased is a 909 shell and has a sunroof, not been fitted afterwards either :S

Dan

Frendo

what's the difference between the models??? lux; monte; motorsport.