Ford Escort RS Cosworth This forum is for discussion of all things pertaining to the Ford Escort Rs Cosworth.

cdf drop links

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-07-2011, 07:01 PM
  #1  
Phil2002
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Phil2002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 1,459
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default cdf drop links

i have a set of cdf racing drop links and i can not for the life of me get them to fit

I have already fucked one set of bushes trying to get them on and not far off doing the same again.

Has anyone actually fitted these with any success.

thanks,

Phil
Old 02-07-2011, 12:54 PM
  #2  
STUCOS
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (8)
 
STUCOS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: side way some were in tayside
Posts: 5,061
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Phil had the same problem mate,ended up fuking them across the garage and fitting a new standard set

cheeRS stu
Old 02-07-2011, 12:59 PM
  #3  
Miller 3
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (4)
 
Miller 3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: rainham/kent
Posts: 9,407
Received 12 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

Phil above has now fitted them, you just need to make sure that all the surfaces are smooth and clean, it is also worth putting the polly bush's in boiling hot water to soften them up, and apply a liberal coat of copper grease when fitting.
Old 08-07-2011, 03:27 PM
  #4  
Stu @ M Developments
PassionFords Creator



iTrader: (12)
 
Stu @ M Developments's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Blackpool, UK Destination: Rev limiter
Posts: 28,824
Received 95 Likes on 76 Posts
Default

The biggest issue we find, is that the original mounting pins are corroded to hell and actually bigger than they should be and courser too, so need a damn good cleaning to get them on!
Old 21-12-2011, 09:40 AM
  #5  
Sonic Boom
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (11)
 
Sonic Boom's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Solihull near Birmingham
Posts: 5,640
Received 33 Likes on 31 Posts
Default

I tried fitting mine yesterday all my rear beam and rear arb and minty clean and I still couldn't get them to go over even with loads of hot water and fairy liquid (other washing up liquids are available) and now the poly bushes are fucked!
Rich
Old 21-12-2011, 10:23 AM
  #6  
Phil2002
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Phil2002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 1,459
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Sonic Boom
I tried fitting mine yesterday all my rear beam and rear arb and minty clean and I still couldn't get them to go over even with loads of hot water and fairy liquid (other washing up liquids are available) and now the poly bushes are fucked!
Rich

This what happened to mine mate i got a set of new poly bushes from MSD.

The lugs that the drop links mount to on the arms and the ARB i grinded and filed the raised section off then drilled and tapped an M6 thread into the end of each lug. I then managed to press the drop links on and bolt a large stainless washer to the end of the lug to prevent the drop link from sliding off.






Phil

Last edited by Phil2002; 21-12-2011 at 10:24 AM.
Old 21-12-2011, 10:25 AM
  #7  
Phil2002
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Phil2002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 1,459
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I'll get some pics of them fitted at some point and post on here.

Phil
Old 21-12-2011, 10:30 AM
  #8  
P412KER
PassionFord Regular
 
P412KER's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Crewe/Middlesbrough
Posts: 498
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Eventually got mine on after alot of f**king about, used a set of mole grips in end.

Only problem is is that they are all marked off the molegrips and look a bit shit now..
Old 21-12-2011, 10:39 AM
  #9  
James @ M Developments.
BANNED

BANNED
iTrader: (2)
 
James @ M Developments.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Devon/Blackpool
Posts: 3,480
Received 28 Likes on 26 Posts
Default

if they are really tight, can you not just drill the bush slightly?

The ones ive fitted have been tight, but not to the point they wont fit, They do need to be a tight fit.

we keep the bushes here if you need some.

If there is a real problem here i will ask CDF to look into it as we were not involved in the design of these.

Last edited by James @ M Developments.; 21-12-2011 at 10:40 AM.
Old 21-12-2011, 11:14 AM
  #10  
Phil2002
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Phil2002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 1,459
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The main problem i had was that once there loads of lube on there the bushed pushed them selves out the drop link. used sockets, vice and moles grips etc but still no joy so decided to do what i explained above.

@James - Did think of drilling the bush but decided against it because i didn't want it to be loose and wanted them to be a tight fit like you said above. I think the issue is due to raised section of the mounting lug being to large for the bush to push over.

Phil

Last edited by Phil2002; 21-12-2011 at 11:16 AM.
Old 21-12-2011, 12:07 PM
  #11  
James @ M Developments.
BANNED

BANNED
iTrader: (2)
 
James @ M Developments.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Devon/Blackpool
Posts: 3,480
Received 28 Likes on 26 Posts
Default

Yes i see what you mean, maybe doing what you did, and if needed even drilling and adding a washer and split pin to the ARB to prevent it comming off will work.
Old 21-12-2011, 06:48 PM
  #12  
Sonic Boom
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (11)
 
Sonic Boom's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Solihull near Birmingham
Posts: 5,640
Received 33 Likes on 31 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Phil2002
The main problem i had was that once there loads of lube on there the bushed pushed them selves out the drop link. used sockets, vice and moles grips etc but still no joy so decided to do what i explained above.
Phil
Yep exactly what happen to me, I tried using a socket and it just cut it's way into the bush

James how much is a set of bushes for the drop links?
Or do you give them away free for the grief?
Eich
Old 12-01-2012, 09:11 AM
  #13  
James @ M Developments.
BANNED

BANNED
iTrader: (2)
 
James @ M Developments.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Devon/Blackpool
Posts: 3,480
Received 28 Likes on 26 Posts
Default

We don't make them mate, or design them.

we do the bushes separate. Ł19.99 for 4.

Last edited by James @ M Developments.; 12-01-2012 at 09:13 AM.
Old 12-01-2012, 09:32 AM
  #14  
busa bob
PassionFord Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
busa bob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: west midlands
Posts: 346
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

If your going to go to the extent of grinding, drilling and tapping you may as well fit rose jointed drop links as i have.. They are only Ł45 and a doddle to fit.
Look better too imo
Old 12-01-2012, 09:40 AM
  #15  
Sonic Boom
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (11)
 
Sonic Boom's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Solihull near Birmingham
Posts: 5,640
Received 33 Likes on 31 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
We don't make them mate, or design them.

we do the bushes separate. Ł19.99 for 4.
You also do 2 for Ł9.99 as I ordered them the otherday, the 2 bushes that go onto the arb I drilled out to 10mm from 8mm and left the ones that go onto the beam as is, it was still hard as fuck but finally got them on.

I think I know where the problem lies thou, the oem bushes are concave both sides so it slides in easier then as it goes through locks/holds tight on the otherside I don't think this would be a hard fix just a slight redesign of the bush to something like this;
I'm no Solid Works/CAD type designer so i quickly knocked this up on Paint but i think you'll get the idea:



Rich

Last edited by Sonic Boom; 12-01-2012 at 04:55 PM.
Old 12-01-2012, 09:42 AM
  #16  
Sonic Boom
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (11)
 
Sonic Boom's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Solihull near Birmingham
Posts: 5,640
Received 33 Likes on 31 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by busa bob
If your going to go to the extent of grinding, drilling and tapping you may as well fit rose jointed drop links as i have.. They are only Ł45 and a doddle to fit.
Look better too imo
If I hadn't just had everything powder coated that's exactly what I would have done.
Rich
Old 09-02-2012, 08:49 PM
  #17  
Toe Knee
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Toe Knee's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Sussex
Posts: 5,438
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

any pics of the drop links fitted and ideas where to get them?!
Old 10-02-2012, 12:55 PM
  #18  
Phil2002
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Phil2002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 1,459
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Toe Knee
any pics of the drop links fitted and ideas where to get them?!

Motorsport developments sell the billet cdf ones i'll see if i can get a pick up for you this weekend.

Phil
Old 10-02-2012, 08:14 PM
  #19  
Toe Knee
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Toe Knee's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Sussex
Posts: 5,438
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Sorry mate dunno why i said drop links i meant to say rose joints!!!
Old 10-02-2012, 08:33 PM
  #20  
dojj
Resident Wrestling Legend
iTrader: (3)
 
dojj's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Little India
Posts: 50,018
Received 258 Likes on 221 Posts
Default

can't you just pop the bushes on first and then slide the drop links over the top of them?
Old 11-02-2012, 03:38 PM
  #21  
Sonic Boom
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (11)
 
Sonic Boom's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Solihull near Birmingham
Posts: 5,640
Received 33 Likes on 31 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by dojj
can't you just pop the bushes on first and then slide the drop links over the top of them?
Unfortunatley not that's one of the many things I tried.
Rich
Old 11-02-2012, 05:34 PM
  #22  
dojj
Resident Wrestling Legend
iTrader: (3)
 
dojj's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Little India
Posts: 50,018
Received 258 Likes on 221 Posts
Default

have the redesigned bushes been easier to fit then?
Old 11-02-2012, 05:50 PM
  #23  
damien roe
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
iTrader: (1)
 
damien roe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: ireland
Posts: 1,184
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

i have a set of flo flex drop links and where easy as fook to fit
Old 12-02-2012, 08:18 AM
  #24  
onslack
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
iTrader: (2)
 
onslack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Location
Posts: 599
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

I've also bought some these cdf drop links, even after heating them up and using fair liquid mine haven't got a hope in hell of going on, neither my beam or my arb are corroded!

I also bought an msd diff mount and both the bolts were too long and needed at least 1cm taking off!

I thought the idea of these was to buy and fit not buy,modify and then fit?!
Old 12-02-2012, 01:19 PM
  #25  
boost mad
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (8)
 
boost mad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: sussex
Posts: 6,289
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by damien roe
i have a set of flo flex drop links and where easy as fook to fit

Link please. I dont want to buy something that i have to modify to fit when its sold as a direct replacement
Old 12-02-2012, 04:47 PM
  #26  
Phil2002
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Phil2002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 1,459
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by boost mad
Link please. I dont want to buy something that i have to modify to fit when its sold as a direct replacement

flo flex are exactly the same as the cdf one's. flo flex made the bushes
Old 12-02-2012, 05:43 PM
  #27  
Sonic Boom
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (11)
 
Sonic Boom's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Solihull near Birmingham
Posts: 5,640
Received 33 Likes on 31 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by dojj
have the redesigned bushes been easier to fit then?
That was just my suggestion and quick knock up in paint they haven't actually been made.
Rich
Old 12-02-2012, 05:54 PM
  #28  
dojj
Resident Wrestling Legend
iTrader: (3)
 
dojj's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Little India
Posts: 50,018
Received 258 Likes on 221 Posts
Default

ah right

so is it just that the holes in the bushes are simply too small to fit over the lugs then?

if so, how were they tested?

i think it's probably the original hole size spec'd for the standard drop link when made in poly simply won't flex as much to go over the top, whenever i fitted my standard drop links i always used a g-clamp to wind them back on again
Old 12-02-2012, 06:18 PM
  #29  
damien roe
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
iTrader: (1)
 
damien roe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: ireland
Posts: 1,184
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Phil2002
flo flex are exactly the same as the cdf one's. flo flex made the bushes

the bushes in my drop links look fook all like the drawing above they might be made by the same company but the design is differant
Old 12-02-2012, 06:23 PM
  #30  
damien roe
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
iTrader: (1)
 
damien roe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: ireland
Posts: 1,184
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by boost mad
Link please. I dont want to buy something that i have to modify to fit when its sold as a direct replacement
i can't find them

email flo flex
Old 12-02-2012, 06:26 PM
  #31  
damien roe
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
iTrader: (1)
 
damien roe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: ireland
Posts: 1,184
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

a pic for you's

i had them on in 5min and not one bit of blood lost



Last edited by damien roe; 12-02-2012 at 06:28 PM.
Old 13-02-2012, 08:49 AM
  #32  
onslack
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
iTrader: (2)
 
onslack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Location
Posts: 599
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

god only knows how you managed too get them on,mine wouldnt budge at all

i need to eat more spinach!
Old 13-02-2012, 11:05 AM
  #33  
DAN-Saff
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
DAN-Saff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: DUNSTABLE
Posts: 517
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by onslack
I've also bought some these cdf drop links, even after heating them up and using fair liquid mine haven't got a hope in hell of going on, neither my beam or my arb are corroded!

I also bought an msd diff mount and both the bolts were too long and needed at least 1cm taking off!

I thought the idea of these was to buy and fit not buy,modify and then fit?!
My customer had the same problem with the diff mount and typically he was told his was a one off and they've fitted loads without a problem lol

They're made by compbrake so I suppose that's why lol!
Old 13-02-2012, 11:21 AM
  #34  
boost mad
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (8)
 
boost mad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: sussex
Posts: 6,289
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by DAN-Saff

They're made by compbrake so I suppose that's why lol!
I thought they were made buy CDF ?

If they are made by Compbrake, after the stories ive heard about them , i wont be buying any more parts like this from them
Old 13-02-2012, 11:39 AM
  #35  
DAN-Saff
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
DAN-Saff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: DUNSTABLE
Posts: 517
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by boost mad
I thought they were made buy CDF ?

If they are made by Compbrake, after the stories ive heard about them , i wont be buying any more parts like this from them
The diff mount is the same as the pic in the comp catalogue. The drop links are made by cdf.
Old 13-02-2012, 11:40 AM
  #36  
Phil2002
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Phil2002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 1,459
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by boost mad
I thought they were made buy CDF ?

If they are made by Compbrake, after the stories ive heard about them , i wont be buying any more parts like this from them
They are made by CDF.
Old 13-02-2012, 11:53 AM
  #37  
Sonic Boom
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (11)
 
Sonic Boom's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Solihull near Birmingham
Posts: 5,640
Received 33 Likes on 31 Posts
Default

The diff mounts are made by CompBrake they have their name engraved into them.
Rich
Old 13-02-2012, 12:07 PM
  #38  
Phil2002
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Phil2002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 1,459
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Sonic Boom
The diff mounts are made by CompBrake they have their name engraved into them.
Rich

They even look shit imho.
Old 13-02-2012, 12:54 PM
  #39  
onslack
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
iTrader: (2)
 
onslack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Location
Posts: 599
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Sonic Boom
The diff mounts are made by CompBrake they have their name engraved into them.
Rich
i must of been blind as i never saw any engraving on mine
Old 13-02-2012, 01:10 PM
  #40  
Sonic Boom
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (11)
 
Sonic Boom's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Solihull near Birmingham
Posts: 5,640
Received 33 Likes on 31 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by onslack
i must of been blind as i never saw any engraving on mine
It's definatley got CompBrake engraved on mine I can take a photo if you like?
Rich


Quick Reply: cdf drop links



All times are GMT. The time now is 10:29 PM.