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Old 04-06-2008, 07:06 AM
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Any idea's why the wadding under the carpet (but not the carpet!) would be damp down in the driver side and passenger front footwells?

I cant fathom out where its coming from
Old 04-06-2008, 08:13 AM
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Window seal or gromet by the battery mate....
Old 04-06-2008, 08:53 AM
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Hmmm what grommet!

Going to try and pull all the wadding out tonight from behind the heater section (its the only part left inside the car!).
Old 04-06-2008, 09:36 AM
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Isnt there a grommet by the battery for wiring to go into the engine. Plus check the loom wiring going into the car.
Old 04-06-2008, 09:43 AM
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No, its sitting on the loom................. In the garage!

I've gotta feeling its coming from somewhere else, like the Window seal!
Old 04-06-2008, 02:04 PM
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Damaged waterproof seal inside the doors ?? My Capri use to leak like buggery due to holes in the plastic membrane behind the door card.

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No visible signs being honest, I'm wondering if it was from a leak previous which has been sorted and never dried fully.

Putting a dehumidifier in there for a few days anyway!
Old 04-06-2008, 04:29 PM
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If the same as sapphies, the water can run along the bonnet pull cable and drips down the bulkhead inside, as mine did, till I put some sealant around the grommet, then welded the rotten floor pan up!!
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Old 04-06-2008, 06:04 PM
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hydraulic clutch Tab's, so it SHOULDN'T really be leaking there?

Going out in a min to see what i can find?
Old 04-06-2008, 09:46 PM
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had this problem on my old saff turned out to be the heater matrix had sprung a leak ,could be worth checkng
Old 04-06-2008, 10:23 PM
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jay 95% chance its the door foam stuff that is behind the door cards! mine is leaking through there and into the footwell and i had a ocean in there!

quote from my bodywork mate '' if that foam/seal is broken anywhere water WILL come in ''

hence i have got some new one's on the way, can get you some if you need... mine had a prev owner make a right mess of them so i've had to remove all the sealer and do it all fresh to go with the new seal...

(failing that loom holes and theres 5 holes i think where the battery stay thing goes.) BUT i almost guarentee its the door seals...

IS VERY GOOD YES...... Adxx
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Originally Posted by cossie.con
had this problem on my old saff turned out to be the heater matrix had sprung a leak ,could be worth checkng
Hadnt thought of that mate, is there anyway of checking? I suppose the dash has to come out to reach the matrix

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jay 95% chance its the door foam stuff that is behind the door cards! mine is leaking through there and into the footwell and i had a ocean in there! quote from my bodywork mate '' if that foam/seal is broken anywhere water WILL come in '' hence i have got some new one's on the way, can get you some if you need... mine had a prev owner make a right mess of them so i've had to remove all the sealer and do it all fresh to go with the new seal... (failing that loom holes and theres 5 holes i think where the battery stay thing goes.) BUT i almost guarentee its the door seals... IS VERY GOOD YES...... Adxx
Door foam behind the cards?!?! I'm lost mate, but I'll whip them off tonight and see If I can spot what you mean! Keep your phone on, may bell you!
Old 05-06-2008, 07:06 AM
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jase,i thought you said it was the deadning up the back of the dash not on the floor?if its a matrix 1.there wont be much water in it as you've got no engine 2.it will run onto the floor not up the bulkhead
my saff still leaked after i changed my matrix so it was under the fuse box.

have you checked that the snuroof drains down the front pillar are clear?
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Originally Posted by Bullett
jase,i thought you said it was the deadning up the back of the dash not on the floor?if its a matrix 1.there wont be much water in it as you've got no engine 2.it will run onto the floor not up the bulkhead
my saff still leaked after i changed my matrix so it was under the fuse box.

have you checked that the snuroof drains down the front pillar are clear?
Nah mate, deffo bottom of the footwell! But after everyone comments here, the matrix could be the culprit! As it hasnt got any worse (due to no engine!)..

Thinking about it, the heater blower stopped working prior to the car getting stripped, wonder If thats linked?
Old 05-06-2008, 07:37 AM
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sounds like it then.my saff one went,so did tracey's and 3 of my mates.all the same.cunt of a job but easier as you have most of the interior out.
Old 05-06-2008, 08:01 AM
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the blower should be seperate tot he matrix

but the matrix is the first pot of call regardless of anything else

and make sure it's dry before you put stuff back in again as not only will it start to rot the rest of the car, it'll stink like merry buggery for ages afterwards
Old 05-06-2008, 08:33 AM
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Right, best start a new topic RE the removal of the heater matrix!!
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disassemble the car and eventually you will get to the heater matrix

built like a nuclear sub, with the bit you want to get to most often being buried in the internals

take this oportunity to go and look at a mk3/4/5 cortina where the heater matrix was bolted just above the air filter and took but seconds to remove and replace
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Thanks!


Not!
Old 05-06-2008, 02:39 PM
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Jase, as said earlier mate, its a full dash out job.

its not hard, just takes a little time and you need to be patient
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Originally Posted by Kelv
Jase, as said earlier mate, its a full dash out job.

its not hard, just takes a little time and you need to be patient
Me?


Going to pressure test it tonight (with the help of Fraser over the phone hopefully!)
Old 05-06-2008, 07:04 PM
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if it is anything like the sierra one, you need to remove the dash to get to the 2 placit nuts that hold it in place
easy once you know what you are loking at, in fat, i've got one here that i can take a picture of
Old 05-06-2008, 09:28 PM
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if you can please Dojj!
Old 05-06-2008, 10:00 PM
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Jase, tested it yet? the outcome...... ?
Old 06-06-2008, 12:12 AM
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guarentee its the door foam 100%
Old 06-06-2008, 08:23 AM
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Adam - Its deffo coming from the matrix, its damp/stained by the transmission tunnel!

Nah didnt in the end Kelv, fitted the swirl pot and did some soldering instead!
Old 06-06-2008, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Kelv
its not hard, just takes a little time and you need to be patient
He's fucked then - you saw what happened to his boost pod . I think he would be better off attending an anger management course before he attemps this .
Old 06-06-2008, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
He's fucked then - you saw what happened to his boost pod . I think he would be better off attending an anger management course before he attemps this .
I hate agreeing with our web toed freind above Kelvin, but for once I think he's right!

Tania phoned last night to see how far I'd got, had a rant over something and she said..................

'Maybe you should pay someone to come round and do the matrix, we dont want another boost pod issue!'
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Mike, it was the boost pod issue that i thought of when i wrote my reply.

Jase, you will do it mate, its not that hard, ill offer to come and help but will have to chat to you about when we are both around to do it, and does Mike really have webbed toes?
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I'll see how I get on Kelvin old fruit!
Old 10-06-2008, 09:20 AM
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Well havent had a chance to check this yet as I had to strip the front diff yesterday.

But hopefully pressure testing the matrix tonight

Here's where it seems the worst (circled)



Again I'd expect it to be soaked with the amount of rain we've been having of late, but its damp........... IE an old leak?!?!
Old 10-06-2008, 09:36 AM
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Deffo heater matrix. You even said that the heating system failed just before you took it off the road .
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That was the interior fan switch, and I'd imagine the heater matrix wouldn't be connected to the this surely?!?!

Next question.........

Anybody got a picture of a heater matrix out of the car and/or where they fail...
Old 10-06-2008, 10:52 PM
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jay just to be sure also make sure the door foam as pictured below is sealed all round the door and is not torn as it will leak too, this is what i meant... save you a hassle... love u longtime.......

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Well I pressure tested the matrix yesterday and all was fine, no leaks etc then it all went to pot.

Makeshift pressure test.


Then the shit hit the fan!




Cant fucking believe it
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.

Are you sure I haven't been in the car at some point and rubbed off some of my luck?
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Funny thing was when Tania saw it, she said 'You've lost your fcuking temper again, well dont come crying to me' turned around and walked upstairs!

I just stood there open mouthed, muttering 'BUUUUUT'

Seriously though, a small amount of pressure, little wiggle here and there, then snap! I couldn't believe it!
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
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Are you sure I haven't been in the car at some point and rubbed off some of my luck?
It must just be association Mike!
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mike has rubbed off in your car?
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Its no laughing matter Neil............................

My cars gone from this:



To this!:



Just to get at this!:



I'd love to meet the bright spark who thought this would be a good idea!


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