What type gearbox ?

Cozzie Bhoy · 22-04-2008, 10:22 PM

What type of gearbox do you guys use on high powered escort cozzie's ?
Getting my Escort back in a few weeks, should make about 380bhp. So the standard box will be under a bit of pressure. Just looking on the quaife site and they're quoting £7,000 for an MT75 dog box

. I'm fooked if I'm forkin out that for a gear box!!

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paul16v · 22-04-2008, 10:28 PM

Mullet box, pm marco polo off here for details

J1mbo · 22-04-2008, 10:34 PM

i wouldnt go quaife really maybe a bara box theyre good althought that might be callad a mullet box as said not 100% sure

mikedaf2 · 22-04-2008, 10:36 PM

the normal big tooth quaife kit will take that sort of power and from memory its around £2000

paul16v · 22-04-2008, 10:38 PM

Yeh mullet/barra box

Kelv · 23-04-2008, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul16v

Yeh mullet/barra box

or even classed as the reyland box aswell.

either way its built by Barra Motorsport and is where i would put my money.

http://www.reyland.co.uk/Details.asp?ProductID=132

Bullett · 23-04-2008, 07:48 PM

or source a second hand quaife at half the price of new lol.

but the barra is the daddy really

marco polo · 24-04-2008, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullett

or source a second hand quaife at half the price of new lol.

but the barra is the daddy really

totally agree if i say so myself

oh yea Bara calls it the Mullit box

thats it's Name

marco

jacko996 · 24-04-2008, 09:58 PM

Hi marco

Any news on the 2wd sequential you spoke about earlier in the year?

RWD_cossie_wil · 25-04-2008, 01:14 AM

don't go anywhere near a quaife unless you fancy spending your evenings playing "pick the broken teethout of my gearbox oil"

Bara Box all the way mate, no messing. And do a hydraulic clutch conversion while you are there as well.

Cozzie Bhoy · 26-04-2008, 09:47 PM

Cheers lads.

Barra box is the one to get so. I'll prob wait till the standard box calfs first.

tore_tj · 27-04-2008, 12:54 AM

what about fixit??

GUZZLER · 27-04-2008, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cozzie Bhoy

Cheers lads.

Barra box is the one to get so. I'll prob wait till the standard box calfs first.

i've been doing that, standard box is still going strong though! the mullit box is at work waiting to go in..........

MD Cos · 27-04-2008, 11:06 AM

i'm going to go against the grain and use a std skyline box!

hughy · 27-04-2008, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MD Cos

i'm going to go against the grain and use a std skyline box!

does any one know how much it is to put in a skyline box?

Bullett · 27-04-2008, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hughy

does any one know how much it is to put in a skyline box?

think martoon charges near 10k ish to do it .

RWD_cossie_wil · 27-04-2008, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GUZZLER

i've been doing that, standard box is still going strong though! the mullit box is at work waiting to go in..........

Why destroy a good gearbox when you could swap it now and sell it for £300-350?

... Sorry don't get that logic at all

cosmagedon · 27-04-2008, 02:11 PM

What sort of modifications are there to get a std skyline box in?

tore_tj · 27-04-2008, 02:35 PM

I don't think the standard box would fit? reason the os giken one fits is it has a removable bell housing and reyland made his own.. the standard box hasn't. If my memories are correct..

NEIL A · 27-04-2008, 04:08 PM

Loyd had a standard skyline box in his car i think that had a cosworth bell housing welded on, i dont see why you couldnt use an adaptor plate either. When i measured one up i think the gearstick would sit back around 4" from standard. Would also need a custom front and rear prop and a skyline clutch.

GUZZLER · 27-04-2008, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil

Why destroy a good gearbox when you could swap it now and sell it for £300-350?

... Sorry don't get that logic at all

i've been a bit to busy & a bit to lazy to change it..........

i'm imprseed the standard box is still going, its had plenty of abuse & quite a few launches

Kelv · 27-04-2008, 06:33 PM

for the skyline box - there is minimal tunnel mods that need to be made.

mainly due to the size of the transfer box, Martoon has belhousing mods that pretty much allow it to fit up with not alot of agro.

Barra box is what id buy, for the money its possibly a good route to take, but is restricted on the size of what can fit inside the gearbox casing.

same issues will occur with the fixit, but downside with fixit is it can take anything up to a year to get it fixed if anything breakes on it - the back up support is purely shocking!!

Clikettman · 26-05-2008, 09:54 AM

Are they straight cut gears ? What about the noise ?

Kelv · 26-05-2008, 10:01 AM

Both the Fixit and Barra box's are straight cut.

and being straight cut you have to allow for a bit of extra noise over standard, and from experience the Fixit is slightly quieter than the Barra.

Clikettman · 26-05-2008, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelv

Both the Fixit and Barra box's are straight cut.

and being straight cut you have to allow for a bit of extra noise over standard, and from experience the Fixit is slightly quieter than the Barra.

I suppose to, but my interest was in what you call "a bit of extra noise"

Kelv · 26-05-2008, 10:33 AM

Pinched from Dave Moss.

but this is the sound of a Barra Box.

grcossie · 26-05-2008, 10:51 AM

Fixit are not straight, they use 20 degree angel. Talked to them on freday, maybe buying one kit

http://fixittransmission.com/pages.a...D=1&showpage=1

Kelv · 26-05-2008, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grcossie

Fixit are not straight, they use 20 degree angel

my error then, i was led to believe they were straight cut, or as good as.

but that would give the reason why they are quieter

Lars_Ferm · 26-05-2008, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelv

Both the Fixit and Barra box's are straight cut.

and being straight cut you have to allow for a bit of extra noise over standard, and from experience the Fixit is slightly quieter than the Barra.

I dont know about barra,but fixit isnt straight cut.I think it is abot 10-15deg cut and sync gears,i wouldnt go whit a straight cut dogbox or anything if u are going to use the car on the road...the noise is terrible.
Try to call Oppliger motorsport they have grearboxes.

grcossie · 26-05-2008, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lars_Ferm

I dont know about barra,but fixit isnt straight cut.I think it is abot 10-15deg cut and sync gears,i wouldnt go whit a straight cut dogbox or anything if u are going to use the car on the road...the noise is terrible.
Try to call Oppliger motorsport they have grearboxes.

20 degree cut

R5FORD · 26-05-2008, 11:49 AM

im buying a bara box for mine..love the sound

grcossie · 26-05-2008, 01:21 PM

What price is it on this bara box ?

rmuldbakken · 26-05-2008, 02:35 PM

Where can i buy this Bara box, is it complete or only kit? Is Reyland strong kit the same?

Kelv · 26-05-2008, 02:43 PM

the Reyland kit is the Barra Box

fezzajsy · 26-05-2008, 03:28 PM

sound very nice

PewteRS · 26-05-2008, 04:20 PM

I would love a Mullit box just for the sound

Kelv · 26-05-2008, 05:20 PM

Mark, buy one mate

youve upped your power, so you may aswell sort out any box issues now!!

PewteRS · 26-05-2008, 05:24 PM

I think "her in doors" would cut my balls off Kelv

dave cos4x4 · 26-05-2008, 08:03 PM

Matts mullit box is up for grabs.

focus 4x4 · 26-05-2008, 08:08 PM

Skyline 6 speed box conversion of Martin ?

22-04-2008, 10:28 PM	#2
paul16v Monte 087 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Hartlepool Posts: 3,654 Rep Power: 11	Mullet box, pm marco polo off here for details __________________

22-04-2008, 10:34 PM	#3
J1mbo B1mbo Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: peterborough Posts: 14,692 Rep Power: 19	i wouldnt go quaife really maybe a bara box theyre good althought that might be callad a mullet box as said not 100% sure __________________ mt-motorsport.com

22-04-2008, 10:36 PM	#4
mikedaf2 Part of the Furniture Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 198 Rep Power: 5	the normal big tooth quaife kit will take that sort of power and from memory its around £2000 __________________ cheeRS Mike

22-04-2008, 10:38 PM	#5
paul16v Monte 087 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Hartlepool Posts: 3,654 Rep Power: 11	Yeh mullet/barra box __________________

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jacko996 Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: May 2007 Location: Under the Car as usual!!! Posts: 993 Rep Power: 5	Hi marco Any news on the 2wd sequential you spoke about earlier in the year?

26-04-2008, 09:47 PM	#11
Cozzie Bhoy Too many posts.. I need a life!! 1993 Ford Escort Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: In the Sticks!! Posts: 976 Rep Power: 8	Cheers lads. Barra box is the one to get so. I'll prob wait till the standard box calfs first. __________________ CheeRS Alan.

27-04-2008, 12:54 AM	#12
tore_tj Cossie Paranoia Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cold Norwegian Garage...Brr.. Posts: 408 Rep Power: 6	what about fixit?? __________________

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cosmagedon Part of the Furniture Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (1) Join Date: May 2004 Location: N.Wales Posts: 163 Rep Power: 8	What sort of modifications are there to get a std skyline box in? __________________

27-04-2008, 02:35 PM	#19
tore_tj Cossie Paranoia Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cold Norwegian Garage...Brr.. Posts: 408 Rep Power: 6	I don't think the standard box would fit? reason the os giken one fits is it has a removable bell housing and reyland made his own.. the standard box hasn't. If my memories are correct.. __________________ Last edited by tore_tj; 27-04-2008 at 02:37 PM.

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NEIL A PassionFord Post Whore!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (6) Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: LEVEN , FIFE Posts: 4,758 Rep Power: 11	Loyd had a standard skyline box in his car i think that had a cosworth bell housing welded on, i dont see why you couldnt use an adaptor plate either. When i measured one up i think the gearstick would sit back around 4" from standard. Would also need a custom front and rear prop and a skyline clutch. __________________

27-04-2008, 06:33 PM	#22
Kelv Almost there! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (4) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gatwick (ish) Posts: 7,430 Rep Power: 16	for the skyline box - there is minimal tunnel mods that need to be made. mainly due to the size of the transfer box, Martoon has belhousing mods that pretty much allow it to fit up with not alot of agro. Barra box is what id buy, for the money its possibly a good route to take, but is restricted on the size of what can fit inside the gearbox casing. same issues will occur with the fixit, but downside with fixit is it can take anything up to a year to get it fixed if anything breakes on it - the back up support is purely shocking!! __________________ EscortRSCosworth.com

26-05-2008, 09:54 AM	#23
Clikettman Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 55 Rep Power: 5	Are they straight cut gears ? What about the noise ?

26-05-2008, 10:01 AM	#24
Kelv Almost there! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (4) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gatwick (ish) Posts: 7,430 Rep Power: 16	Both the Fixit and Barra box's are straight cut. and being straight cut you have to allow for a bit of extra noise over standard, and from experience the Fixit is slightly quieter than the Barra. __________________ EscortRSCosworth.com

26-05-2008, 10:33 AM	#26
Kelv Almost there! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (4) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gatwick (ish) Posts: 7,430 Rep Power: 16	Pinched from Dave Moss. but this is the sound of a Barra Box. __________________ EscortRSCosworth.com

26-05-2008, 10:51 AM	#27
grcossie Too many posts.. I need a life!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: May 2007 Location: norway Posts: 736 Rep Power: 5	Fixit are not straight, they use 20 degree angel. Talked to them on freday, maybe buying one kit http://fixittransmission.com/pages.a...D=1&showpage=1 __________________ Sierra saphire 88 2wd Cosworth stg1 Escort Cosworth 93 stg3 Last edited by grcossie; 26-05-2008 at 10:54 AM.

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26-05-2008, 01:21 PM	#32
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26-05-2008, 02:43 PM	#34
Kelv Almost there! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (4) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gatwick (ish) Posts: 7,430 Rep Power: 16	the Reyland kit is the Barra Box __________________ EscortRSCosworth.com

26-05-2008, 03:28 PM	#35
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PewteRS I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: South Wales Posts: 1,225 Rep Power: 7	I would love a Mullit box just for the sound

26-05-2008, 05:20 PM	#37
Kelv Almost there! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (4) Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gatwick (ish) Posts: 7,430 Rep Power: 16	Mark, buy one mate youve upped your power, so you may aswell sort out any box issues now!! __________________ EscortRSCosworth.com

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PewteRS I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!! Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (2) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: South Wales Posts: 1,225 Rep Power: 7	I think "her in doors" would cut my balls off Kelv

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