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Old 17-01-2006, 09:01 PM
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Default Pain in my legs when walking or running......

To be more precise...

If i walk FAST, which is my preffered pace for some cardio, 1 mile per day twice per day, i get a sometimes unbearable pain in my legs.

Both legs... both in the same place.
Below the knee and above the ankle.... no idea what its called... But its a crampy type pain if that means anything?

If i try to run i get it in less than 20 seconds......

Its annoying me more now that my fitness level has improved a LOT as im no longer even short of breath after a fast 1 mile walk, let alone out of it. lol Id like to go longer but i am fighting this pain for the last 1/2 of the jorney and its starting to worry me a little...


Help if you can...
Old 17-01-2006, 09:08 PM
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Sounds horrible, I feel for you. If this isnt a daft question, does it feel like its in the muscle, or deeper in your leg? (Cant really think of a more sensible way to phrase it)
Old 17-01-2006, 09:11 PM
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I honestly cant describe it.... it feels more to the front if that helps?
Old 17-01-2006, 09:12 PM
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its most likely your legs not used to that much muscle movement dont worry as you do it more it will go, for example when i havnt played football or any exersise in a long while i will feel it but if i do plenty of sports over a week my muscles just get used to it so dont worry, and i know how you feel about the pain kills doesnt it
Old 17-01-2006, 09:48 PM
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You'll just have to fight through it Stu!!! I get that on boot runs etc, but it normally wears off after a few miles!!! Some people call it "shin splints" but it isn't really. If you do loads of hard plodding on hard surfaces it can cause proper shin splints - especially if you run on the outsides of your feet slightly. But I don't think your 2 miles will do much damage mate!!!
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Ah, thats interesting as i have noted mentally that its less painfull if i walk at the same speed on GRASS...

So just battle through it yeah?
Old 17-01-2006, 10:47 PM
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yep it will go mate, keep up the good work
Old 18-01-2006, 08:58 AM
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Stu, that does sound like shin splints mate as said above and can be very painfull.....
..I have had these in the past so I know how you are feeling.

You can put in an exercise to help clear this up every other day...now to explain it.



Sit on a weight bench "length ways" and your knees bent up towards your chest,

Rest your heels on the end of the bench so your toes are hanging off the end.

Now put a dumbell weight between your feet so the plate is resting on the top of your trainers and the other plate is below your trainers,
lean back and hold onto the bench with your hands behind you,
then raise your feet up and then lower slowly.....this works the shin muscles.

Do 3 sets of 15 and start of light at first.....over time this will help and should sort the problem,........
you will be getting some funny looks of people who are thinking WTF is he doing ,
but it is one of the only exercises to help with the above condition effectively.

Hope that makes sense, if not let me know.

That should do it..
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I will log in tonight and try that on on my home bench

Thanks for all your kind advice.
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As Paul says, there is a muscle that runs down the front of your shin. The purpose of which is to lift your foot so your toes point up.

I get these too when walking too fast.
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Out of interest, would the treadmill and stepper help fix this as i get the pain on there too, after a similar amount of time.... Is it deffo safe to lod on and try to ignore the pain?
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I cetainly find the treadmill far more forgiving on joints wether I'm jogging or walking fast(majority of the time).

I'm suprised it hits you on the stepper though as I would have thought you are either flat footed or on the balls of your toes. I've only found it hurts during walking style activity where the foot has to be repeated picked up. It maybe the angle of the stepper.

Another way of training them would be to use an exercise bike with the toe straps. This means you can pull on the up stroke as well as the conventional pushing down. Gives you more of a workout too and is far more rythmic.

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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
I will log in tonight and try that on on my home bench

Thanks for all your kind advice.
How did you get on with that Stu? ok.
Old 19-01-2006, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Out of interest, would the treadmill and stepper help fix this as i get the pain on there too, after a similar amount of time.... Is it deffo safe to lod on and try to ignore the pain?
If the pain is that bad...do not ignore it, it will not go away.

Do the exercise above that I have explained to you and stick to low impact....unless you like the pain It needs rest from overload and the correct building technique to rid!
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I will log in tonight and try that on on my home bench

Thanks for all your kind advice.
How did you get on with that Stu? ok.
I didnt do it last night im afraid as Wednesday is my new Legs day and i came back from the Gym too sore to contemplate sitting in my cold conservatory with no lights and the rain beating down on the roof

Will hopefully try tonight.
Old 19-01-2006, 08:38 AM
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Stu, if you are doing 3xweights a week, just add it to those workouts down the gym it's not an intense exercise so just put it on the end of your weight session and things will improve over time mate.....trust me.
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Thanks guys, as always, will keep you updated.
Old 20-01-2006, 02:54 PM
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Hi Stu

Pain in the legs, shins etc, is often caused by mechanical problems, ie; you may over/underpronate

I would suggest you go back to physio for a gait analysis and ask if he thinks you would benefit from orthotics.

I used to suffer terribly from "shin splints", it was sometimes so bad that it felt as if my shins were going to, ermmm... snap.. if that makes any sense? I had to decrease my running more and more and eventually, I couldnt run AT ALL

I decided to go to the Physio (the one you go to) as they specialise in sports injuries. He said he thought that I overpronate and sent me off to a private (could have gone NHS but didnt want to wait) podiatrist. Orthotics were prescribed and I havent looked back since I wouldnt be without them In fact, I bought a second pair, so that when pair one is in for refurb (the angle of correction needs rebuilding every 500 miles or so) I can continue running using my "spare pair"

Running and fast walking make any problems with gait more obvious, you may be ok walking day to day but have a problem when impact increases.

This of course may not be the problem at all but its something for you to think about
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I get this too. I put it down to being overweight and inpacting my shins too much as I run.

Ive never been able to run for long but I did find that by slowly increasing the amount of time I ran it got easier and I could run for longer. It was a case of just baring that pain for a bit longer each time without overdoing it.

But then I got fed up with cardio, switched to weights and now Im bag where I started!

Might give those excercises a try though!
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Originally Posted by Yamaha
so bad that it felt as if my shins were going to, ermmm... snap.. if that makes any sense?
Yes, i do literally worry that the shin bone is going to break and burst out the front of my legs!

More expense
Old 20-01-2006, 03:14 PM
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what shoes/trainers have you got?

post a pic!

(good job it aint scratch and sniff lol)
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Yamaha
so bad that it felt as if my shins were going to, ermmm... snap.. if that makes any sense?
Yes, i do literally worry that the shin bone is going to break and burst out the front of my legs!

More expense
Yes, more Ł indeed If memory serves, one pair of orthotics cost Ł140 and I have TWO pairs You know me though!

I think go to physio or, if Łs are tight, buy yourself a PROPER pair of running shoes. The average high street sports shop doesn't have a good selection of real running shoes, even those that are labelled "for running" often aren't!

You could try a pair of stabilty shoes (running shoes with extra stability features) or shoes for overpronators (same as stability but with much more control)

Try here http://www.startfitness.co.uk/acatalog/catalogbody.html

I get all my shoes from here I usually ring them up though after browsing their site. They have a few branches and I always ring one in particular as the man there is VERY helpful. He's sent me two pairs of shoes in the past with no charge for me to try them out first, pick the one I want and send the other pair back!
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Wow..

How can taking teh dog for a 1 mile run get so damn complicated?
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Everything you do is complex Stu
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if the pain is that worrying then always best to go see your gp for advice.

but if you find you do little impact cardio during your day to day ruteen then the sudden change to doing long distance walking/running will cause some discomfort the certain areas.

when i started running over a year ago after i was littrally a cripple for a week due to the pain in my legs (i couldnt even walk up or down stairs) but i kept the ruteen up every week on the dot and after about a month the muscle memory in my legs started to pay off.

now i do up to 7 miles without a problem, did 14 this week
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