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I would have thought you would want more carbs & calories for energy?
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When did everyone start using so many supplements? I`m of the old way of thinking, eat real food rather than supplements, oh well each to their own!
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i agree with you mate but the shakes are good cause i can take as soon as my training session is finished sooner the better imo by the time i get home and eat its another 40 mins.
plus if im heading out in the car i eat before i leave the house and take a shake with me, just handy really, im eating 3 chicken fillets a day everyday then carbs veg oats fish peanutbutter ect ect so im def eating plenty lol
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i just see eveything as a different tool really.
i use smelling salts for my big lifts anyone else use this?
i use smelling salts for my big lifts anyone else use this?
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Every single body is different. Everyones kidneys/livers/stomachs/digestive systems operate at different levels of efficiency.
Plus a 6 foot 6, 20 stone man's body needs more protein/carbs/fat than a 5 foot 0, 7 stone womans. Surely the mans body therefore can consume and digest larger quantities of food at any one time?
Find me a scientific paper that proves it and i'll believe you, otherwise imma keep banging my 70g of whey at a time like a real man.
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Ridiculous arguement, heard it before and discounted it before.
Every single body is different. Everyones kidneys/livers/stomachs/digestive systems operate at different levels of efficiency.
Plus a 6 foot 6, 20 stone man's body needs more protein/carbs/fat than a 5 foot 0, 7 stone womans. Surely the mans body therefore can consume and digest larger quantities of food at any one time?
Find me a scientific paper that proves it and i'll believe you, otherwise imma keep banging my 70g of whey at a time like a real man.
Every single body is different. Everyones kidneys/livers/stomachs/digestive systems operate at different levels of efficiency.
Plus a 6 foot 6, 20 stone man's body needs more protein/carbs/fat than a 5 foot 0, 7 stone womans. Surely the mans body therefore can consume and digest larger quantities of food at any one time?
Find me a scientific paper that proves it and i'll believe you, otherwise imma keep banging my 70g of whey at a time like a real man.
hahaha! i love this! its this mindset that makes you grow!
my mate wonders why he cant gain
i fucking know why! cause i eat chicken ect till im sick then eat some more
i asked him how much meat he eats a week he said em well i had steak on tuesday and som fish on friday oh an i had a chicken burger on wednesday
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protein shakes are a rip of unless u spend top dollar. The type of protein they mostly use is crap the body struggles to break down. You can get massive gains just on diet. This is mine at mo. Wake up 2boiled eggs big bowl of porridge, 9.30am 2 chicken breasts and apple. 12 usually jacket pot and beans or scrambled egg on toast. 3.30 big bowl of brown rice tin of tuna and some frozen veg. 5.30 train, 7 2chicken breasts and brown pasta. I make my dinner up on my lunch break and eat it at the gym straight after.
Coming on to the point of showing u a scientific paper show me one that says u can take in more than 45g of protein every 2-3 hours
Coming on to the point of showing u a scientific paper show me one that says u can take in more than 45g of protein every 2-3 hours
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Also the comment about not eating right if you have to take shakes?? Is that it then, no more to it than that, you're just eating wrong? Nowt to do with price, convenience, ease etc etc. Might want to look up the word supplement...... They are there as an addition to food.
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Ridiculous arguement, heard it before and discounted it before.
Every single body is different. Everyones kidneys/livers/stomachs/digestive systems operate at different levels of efficiency.
Plus a 6 foot 6, 20 stone man's body needs more protein/carbs/fat than a 5 foot 0, 7 stone womans. Surely the mans body therefore can consume and digest larger quantities of food at any one time?
Find me a scientific paper that proves it and i'll believe you, otherwise imma keep banging my 70g of whey at a time like a real man.
Every single body is different. Everyones kidneys/livers/stomachs/digestive systems operate at different levels of efficiency.
Plus a 6 foot 6, 20 stone man's body needs more protein/carbs/fat than a 5 foot 0, 7 stone womans. Surely the mans body therefore can consume and digest larger quantities of food at any one time?
Find me a scientific paper that proves it and i'll believe you, otherwise imma keep banging my 70g of whey at a time like a real man.
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protein shakes are a rip of unless u spend top dollar. The type of protein they mostly use is crap the body struggles to break down. You can get massive gains just on diet. This is mine at mo. Wake up 2boiled eggs big bowl of porridge, 9.30am 2 chicken breasts and apple. 12 usually jacket pot and beans or scrambled egg on toast. 3.30 big bowl of brown rice tin of tuna and some frozen veg. 5.30 train, 7 2chicken breasts and brown pasta. I make my dinner up on my lunch break and eat it at the gym straight after.
Coming on to the point of showing u a scientific paper show me one that says u can take in more than 45g of protein every 2-3 hours
Coming on to the point of showing u a scientific paper show me one that says u can take in more than 45g of protein every 2-3 hours
I know what I will take my chances with.
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2eggs on toast before bed. I think an egg has on average 5g. If i was on a cycle i would defo add to my diet a protein shake when i wake up and one before bed but i have no need to at this point
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Why does it matter if your on cycle or not?? You are either trying to grow or your not. Even of your maintaining a certain size the the protein intake needs to be up. the easiest way to lose size, on or off cycle, before or after, is to lack on the diet!
Whether you are bulking, growing, cutting whatever, if your trying to hold or put on muscle then your diet needs to be there.....
Whether you are bulking, growing, cutting whatever, if your trying to hold or put on muscle then your diet needs to be there.....
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what i listed in my diet is more than enough to put on size. I seen great gains this month that im using this diet, and i put on about 3lbs a month. Not much i know but im in it for the long run.
Of course it maters if your on a cycle as if u was u would need to double my diet, if your not your body can only digest x amount of protein every 2-3 hours anyway so if i ate like i was on a cycle i would be a fat cunt!lol when i tried sus 250 i went from 14stone to 17.5 stone in 2months but i ate so much. Its just not needed when u do it naturally mate
Of course it maters if your on a cycle as if u was u would need to double my diet, if your not your body can only digest x amount of protein every 2-3 hours anyway so if i ate like i was on a cycle i would be a fat cunt!lol when i tried sus 250 i went from 14stone to 17.5 stone in 2months but i ate so much. Its just not needed when u do it naturally mate
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Rubbish, your diet needs to be spot on more when your off cycle!
So you went from 14st to 17.5 on cycle. What did you drop to once you come off and what do you weight now?
So you went from 14st to 17.5 on cycle. What did you drop to once you come off and what do you weight now?
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dropped to 16 so still got good gains, im only 13 now but i dont wanna put that size on again, i couldnt walk properly. I.ve only got a small frame though but big chest and shoulders. That cycle was 5years ago, i broke my wrist shortly after playing american football so lost interest. Just started it up again since march
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dropped to 16 so still got good gains, im only 13 now but i dont wanna put that size on again, i couldnt walk properly. I.ve only got a small frame though but big chest and shoulders. That cycle was 5years ago, i broke my wrist shortly after playing american football so lost interest. Just started it up again since march
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I normally train at around 19:00 and have 2 scoops of maxiraw intensity straight after training, then eat about 1/2 hour after. seems to do the job for me....
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P.s i say small frame but its pretty big up top, just my chicken legs letting me down
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5ft 9 mate but im well top heavy. I just started training legs weekly, i started 2weeks ago but half the week im walking around like like big bubba smashed my back doors in
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8 weeks mate but that was with la muscle products, the best out there in my opinion, and explosive creatine too. I was eating 5000cal per day and 300g protein minimum, weight gain shakes protein shakes vitamins and prob loadsa of other stuff i forgot. Back in the day when i wasnt spending all my money on a mortgage and the cossie. My aim now is 14.5 stone so thats a 1.5 increase but by using now products, just pure diet,
P.s i say small frame but its pretty big up top, just my chicken legs letting me down
P.s i say small frame but its pretty big up top, just my chicken legs letting me down
Fair play though for responding to my baiting without actually biting. I still don't believe that you added 2 stone of pure muscle on the course with all those suppliments as alot would be water and a little fat but thats just my opinion and probably not worth a toss.
The trouble is with fast gains like that is that they tend to all drop off. However, good pct (maybe some peds) and diet would see you retain lots.
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i did have a good after cycle course but i cant remember what, it was full of tubs of chemical powder and tabs etc etc. I would prob agree with u about water retention, in the first week of using explosive creatine i put on 1stone! But that stuff was about 45quid and after your loading up week only gave u one week normal dose. Was amazing stuff, easily pushed through my bench press p.b when i thought i hit my level. I think i even did it laughing iirc!
But i just really wanna see if what gains i get from naturaly training, steriods will always be there to tempt me, maybe in feb time i might get a few more cycles but im happy at mo making slow but steady gains, and i look better shape too, as not a load of water retention either. U coming to any shows next yer like ford fair etc etc. We should all meet up and have a protein shake pmsl
But i just really wanna see if what gains i get from naturaly training, steriods will always be there to tempt me, maybe in feb time i might get a few more cycles but im happy at mo making slow but steady gains, and i look better shape too, as not a load of water retention either. U coming to any shows next yer like ford fair etc etc. We should all meet up and have a protein shake pmsl
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i did have a good after cycle course but i cant remember what, it was full of tubs of chemical powder and tabs etc etc. I would prob agree with u about water retention, in the first week of using explosive creatine i put on 1stone! But that stuff was about 45quid and after your loading up week only gave u one week normal dose. Was amazing stuff, easily pushed through my bench press p.b when i thought i hit my level. I think i even did it laughing iirc!
But i just really wanna see if what gains i get from naturaly training, steriods will always be there to tempt me, maybe in feb time i might get a few more cycles but im happy at mo making slow but steady gains, and i look better shape too, as not a load of water retention either. U coming to any shows next yer like ford fair etc etc. We should all meet up and have a protein shake pmsl
But i just really wanna see if what gains i get from naturaly training, steriods will always be there to tempt me, maybe in feb time i might get a few more cycles but im happy at mo making slow but steady gains, and i look better shape too, as not a load of water retention either. U coming to any shows next yer like ford fair etc etc. We should all meet up and have a protein shake pmsl
I do a few shows throughout the year but havent done Ford Fair for a couple as it got a bit samey. May venture there next year, who knows??
We did joke a while back about having a bench press comp at the Pod for Central day as there were alot of big numbers being banded about at the time. Funnily enough it never happened.
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haha i would fuck that right of, i dont ever bench heavy just try and do a set of 12or 15. I weight 80kg's and i only usually press 36's but i do sometimes do 40 for an ego boost.
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pint of water please barman pmsl
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True mate, as u gotta get technique right and sort diet first. U can take a behinner cycle though which wouldnt do u no harm. Like just sus on its on, then build it up to to sus and deca then chuck one more in, but all my mates are on it and its chemical bollox now, i much prefer the tried and tested old school oil based stuff
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i think everyone can bench press 1.5 times their weight, so im aiming for 120kg one rep max. But tbh u have to train to get that explosiveness. As i do lighter weights but more reps its hard for me to bash out big numbers. But like everything u can train to do it, but its not my goal at the mo. p.s i havent been to any shows so next year i wanna go to them all