jim_jamie_3

Right before i start, please dont comment with stupid post about how steriods are bad and all the rest of the crap, if you not intrested in the questions im asking please dont bother wasting my time with stupid childish post.

right after that, im starting to cut up abit, having been doing a lot a reserch in to help to keep my strenth up. was going to do a cycle of suss with decca when i was on a bulk, but thought it was a bit to harsh for a first cycle and also i dont think i was quite ready.

iv been looking and tren for my first proper cycle. i did a 8 week cycle of advanced muscle sicence liquidrone, which resembles tren in all its charictaristics, but wasnt as strong, i resoponded well, strenth went through the roof with very little side effects

so im gona start my tren in the next few weeks, just finishing a pct for a pro hormone. iv heard tren on its own its v harsh on the old lerbido, iv got stuff to do if u catch my drift so cant have non of that!

so whats good to take with tren?

and advice would be much appricated

stevenebm

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best if luck with it mate.i cant input any attall as its way above my head.if you really need some advice and no one here can then join up ukmuscle.co.uk unless your already on there.great advice etc will defo be found there

JamboRS

do you really want steroid advice on a car forum.

do you ask on bodybuilding forums whats the best turbo to use.

theres only a few on here clued up on this stuff and most others is just an opinion,get onto the proper sites and do the homework before you start using steds.thats my advice

ramsay_2007

Hardcore sted to use as a first cycle m8 but seems already bought so ide add in test at a higher dose to help libido problems rather than swallowing viagra every night to have a ride!

What dose are you running it at?Also is it ren e or tren a? What you got planned for pct as it shuts you down hard and fast

kiddie

Tren is an AWESOME steroid. But it is heavy with side effects, personally for me they include;

insomnia
night sweats/nightmares
hot flushes


that is all from 300mg tren e, a week.

I run test alongside it simply because I love being on test (500mg), and have no trouble downstairs.

Read everything you can find online though regarding it though. I still find it hard to live with, but it is my fav steroid for how it changes your body (in such a short time)

kiddie

But no way would I suggest taking it. Read as much as you can and make your own mind up mate

Benni

What do you mean by running a test along side it Kiddie?

Benni.

Dirty Harry

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its known as "stacking" running a course of 2 different steroids,test is the main steroid most people use stacked with decca or sust or even dinobol

Benni

Ah, I see. Heard it a few times and wasn't sure.

Benni.

smudgerz

As Kiddie said, Tren is one of the best steriods for bulking but has the worst sides. When i did tren acetate, it turned me into a bit of a nutter! Its the only steriod that did this in 15 years of takeing them....

With acetate, it doesnt stay in your system for long, so if your having a bad time with it, in a few days you will be fine

With enanthate, its slow releaseing, so stays in your system for much longer.

I would run test with it mate.

Before you start have a good read up on it, try muscletalk for loads of good advise.

One last thing, inject very slowly or you may get "Tren" cough... not nice!

Good luck, Smudge

jim_jamie_3

thanks for all the advice, i have read up alot, im not just jumping in at the deep end. i am a memeber on muscule talk and have asked on there and got pretty much the same advice.

and JamboRS im not a complete fucktard i know this is a car forum, but it has a weight training section as well, iv read through countless post in the section asking similer advice and there seems to be a few quite knowlegable people on here, which most of the post in this topic has shown, so why i was on here i thought i might as well ask.

i have read all about the sides, i think the pros out do the cons to be honest, i didnt want the bloat of dynabol and want to keep as much size when i fininsh. i have read with dynabol you loss quite a lot due to water retention.

im only gona a 4 week cycle, i think this will be more then enough for a my first, as for the pct, i have been using advance muscule science cloimdex which i found to to the job. whats a good test to take with the tren? does it have in be injectable or will oral do the job

Ollie.

As said above mate Tren is pretty harsh. Doesnt hold much water which is great but does give you the cough and as said by someone above its the only sted thats made me feel angry sometimes. Defo good for strength. Id go with some test prop and maybe some winstol orals. Great course and you wont blow up like a balloon which you would with sus and deca. For the record i think that particular corse isnt even worth taking.

Badman38

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you sure about using tren all the bad stuff you hear about steriods tren to blame, but for effectivness its definatly the best, like been said go with tren a just to see how your body reacts and run a heavy PCT tren shuts you down hard, i did'nt get on with tren some others i know wont ever touch the stuff again but then everyone different

sean

jim_jamie_3

thanks for the excellent advice guys, really helped me out alot.

so with the mixed reviews on tren, what alternatives are there? im cuttting up so not really going to hard carb wise, so didnt want to much of a bulker cos if the diet aint up 2 it, its a wasit of time and money.

ollie, sus and decca not worth it? just read a lot of good things but mayb they were in the wrong sort of place! so what would be better then that?

Ollie.

Sus and deca will just blow you up like a baloon mate. You'll hold lots of water and lose it all afterwards. Why not try some test 350 and equibol for a first cycle? Good for size and no nasty sides.

For the record i didnt get many bad sides from tren, bit angey (its the only sted that does it to me) and occasionally the cough but its only for a couple minutes at jag time.