Conor Harrington

right im sure this has been asked many times before being going to the gym now for a while and feel after a long time want to make it seriouse am looking for a good steriod what woudl everyone suggest for a first time user?
cheers

kermitt

I would suggest you stop being a retard and don't bother.

Philibusmo

seconded. I have seen too many friends fucked up by those things.

Conor Harrington

mate thats you oprinion but dont start callin me a fuckin retard if you have a problem with it why look in the fitness thread where this stuff is discussed.

B1G_RST

iTrader: (1)

whats your weight? age ? and what sort of training are you doing?

Benni

You win the ignorance contest... All the best with them mate, I suggest you do a lot of research.

Benni.

Conor Harrington

18
11 stone
6 foot
and my build is wide have a wide back so i know it can be done and yes i agree with the research the more i know the better

any help would be great


cheers
conor

kiddie

lol

To the OP have a look back through the old threads in here mate there's loads of info. Also muscletalk has a quality aas section, be carefull though your cock will shrink

B1G_RST

iTrader: (1)

honestly mate, id stay of the shit the now, im 20, 12.5stone, ive never touched the stuff but been mega close,, just eat well and take some shakes, protein or weight gainer,

how often you training?

like i said id stay of stuff, but look on the net a dbol,

StephenC

whys that then? Can understand why balls shrink as your natural testosterone production shuts down but cock shrinkage???

Conor Harrington

cock shrinkage is a myth it dosent happen it is only the balls that shrink and yes i believe that research is the key
and dbol has come up alot and i will have a look on that site tonigt start reading and also
this mite start agro but best place to get the stuff
i have a mate who does it and he can get sum but was wondering if there was any other ways if people dont want 2 say on here you can pm me cheers guys for all your help

Red16

At 6ft and 11st... i'd suggest eating properly before starting steroids... sort your diet, sleep and training out first, then look to biological enhancement.

Conor Harrington

i say 11 is nearly 12 well havent weighed latly and have got bigger
i know a diet is jsut as important as training
so yes i will do this but was looking for info of what will be the best starter and where from?

StephenC

yeah I know, was just looking for an informed reply from kiddie does my head in when people write unhelpful bullshit. Muscletalk is quite a nice site, plenty of articles worth reading on there (on right hand side of page)

Conor Harrington

haha yeah i know mate u seem 2 be the savour for blokes on this site
people who take the piss yeah have there opinion but pm me not say it when u know others will react ohh well will go onto the sight now and have a butchers

cheers mate

Ed1

Wudnt bother tbh mate, i have never tried but everyone that i speak to never have a good thing to say about them!

How long you been training?

snedboy

All i will say is your too young and your nat test levels are at peak levels still so no need for steds just eat ALOT more food and you will grow nicely BUT if you do manage to get steds please post back what you bought and i will tell you how to cycle it properly and not dangerously

Kieron

Kiddie was taking the piss out of those ignorant people that post shit they have no clue about. Its called sarcasm.

Conor, as soon as I read your age I have to admit I think your too young. Your still growing a bit naturally. Admittedly your on the border line and I know people that have used at your age but thats all down to impatience and poor training/diet/rest.

Personally for a first coarse I would start on something relatively low. Start off on oral Anabol only and only 25-30mg per day imho. Plenty to see "some" gains that you will keep most of. You can always build up over the coarses/years etc but there is no point in putting on masses of size for it all to drop back off again. Then starts the cycle of using and abusing!

My training partner asked me a few months ago about gear as his mate had advised him a first coarse of 2ml Sus & 2ml Deca per week!! No fucking way should that be a first coarse imho! I told him the same as I have said above but first told him he needed to sort his other shit out first as his training was half arsed, diet diabolical and he was a typical teen with his sleeping patterns, i.e. bed at 1am, up at 8.30 to be to work at 9. All of the other areas needed improvement before taking the ole wonder drug.

Conor Harrington

yeah i dont wana go onto the hard stuff i want to be jsut on the basics jsut to help and if i want to build up

what would u suggest then for my first cycle

i train about 3-4 times a day

and where can i get them from?

Kieron

I wouldn't recommend anything to be honest with you mate. I don't know enough about you, your training, size, diet, form, anything.. I have mentioned what I would personally take as a first 6 week coarse. I would imagine some on here wouldn't agree but thats what I would do.

If you want the basics then consume lots of protein, train correctly and get some rest. You probably don't need gear at your stage, but I just don't know.

Train 3-4 tims a DAY? Do you mean a week? Whats your routine? Where do you train? Do you have a training partner?

I'm sure someone on here could supply you if thats the route you decide to take.

Conor Harrington

yes i mean a week lol
yeah was jsut wondering if peopel know the best sort of one to use
i train at the local gym virgin
i try upper body use resistant and free weights.
i do now have a training partner but i know this helps if i do have 1

was just wondering the best one that will help me or where i can get them

kiddie

Thankyou Kieron.

To the OP, I'd listen to this man's advice. He has taken the time to reply with bang on advice.

If your set on taking steroids, then as said already-there is a wealth of information to be found on the internet.

Training
Diet
Steroids
PCT

Search all of these, read up about them. Them come back and ask advice

B1G_RST

iTrader: (1)

google Dbol mate, proberly the first steriod any1 uses, can get them easy and cheap but id seriosly think twice before taking your first cycle, your a bit young mate, stil got alot of natural strengh to come

Kieron

http://articles.muscletalk.co.uk/art...formation.aspx

There you go, I've done it for you.

Just had a quick read and the beginner dose is as I've already stated. However I've learnt something as I never knew the half life was only 4 hours. When I first started out I was told to take them throughout the day and years later I was told that there was no benefit from that. Now I would go back to what I was originally told.

Trouble is with gear, everyones an expert.

stevenebm

iTrader: (6)

i couldnt for the life of me take steriods.what happened to just eating,training and resting right.i would think only bodybuilders need steriods.at 18 im guessing your just being impatient and wanting big muscles for summer coming in

smudgerz

As said above mate, your way too young. The problem is, once you start taking gear, thats it, your on the very slippery slope of being on and off cycle.... you have plenty of time for that as you get a bit older!

Smudge

Ollie.

FAR far far too young. You must be built like a twig? Go and eat and train properly and come back once you're about 14 stone. How long you been training?

Matthew_M

dbol is a good first course

2 aday for a week
3 aday for a week
4 a day for a week
5 a day for 4 weeks
4 a day for a week
3 a day for a week
2 a day for a week

then pct

also its worth taking milk thystle u can get it from boots and take it everyday

always worth starting out mild but as said above sort your diet first as you will make the most gains if ur nutrition is right

how long have u been training?

i would do at least 12 months of natural training before

good second course is the like of sus and deca but then again it all depends what u what

steroid.com has got some good info on profiles etc have a browse on there and do some reasearch

dont listen to what the people you are buying it off tell you as most of them well try to sell u as much as possible and infuence you into doing more than required

once you have decided what you want to do do a bit more reasearch etc on side effects as acny etc is quite common

if you need any more advice just let me know

Mat

Kieron

Why do you feel the need to pyramid it up at such a slow gradient only to come back down again equally as slow? No mention of taking them all in one go or throughout the day?

More importantly I think your referring to how many tabs a day, yeah? So tabs of what mg??? The poster could get hold of 50mg naps and take 5 a day according to your advice!! Might be worth mentioning that small detail hey.

Of what??

So do one coarse of dbol as above then hit sus and deca? Second coarse of injectectables and cocktailing them too, wow! Would it not be wiser to do a couple of coarses of tabs and then maybe run bdol and deca together? If indeed steroids are the answer.

Acne is probably the least of the worries tbh. But I totally agree with your comment of "do a bit more research". Very very very good advice there.

Shit, I'm turning into Chip.

Matthew_M

2 be honest mate if he couldn't make sense of the advice I gave then gear isn't for him anybody who has done there research would be able to make sense of that

no need to be a smart arse was just trying to help

Matthew_M

As for napalone I stated dbol which is usually in 5mg and the small doses are ideal for a begginer imo

Kieron

I appologise for being a smart arse but your advice isn't much help tbh. However I say it, its not going to sound good as I am not agreeing entirely with what you've put. The OP obviously hasn't done his research and I guess can take some bits of what you've said away with him. Some of them I hope he researches a bit more thoroughly though.

As for the Anapolin comment then yeah its not strictly dianbol but its an oral with similar compounds and I was just trying to make a point. As for the tabs being 5mg yeah most are but I am increasingly seeing 10mg tabs on offer. Without specifying the advice is fruitless.

kiddie

If he had done his research then he would not be on a car forum asking advice on steroids.

And that was a very strange way of suggesting using Dianabol!

kiddie

I can get 5,10 & 20mg dbol tabs. So stating take x amount of tabs a day is pretty stupid aswell.

A standard Dbol course would be;
30mg a day for 6 weeks

PCT day after you last tab if you decide to, again research and you should find everything you need.

Benni

So without PCT, do you loose more of your gains?

Benni.

kiddie

No.

PCT is pretty harsh on your system, I have read alot of info and personally for me I don't use it. I came off a year long cycle, and didn't PCT. I ran trt for 8 weeks @ 125mg a week, and then off.

Obviously AI's are important on a heavy cycle, or at least have something to hand incase of gyno symptons.

Look into the for and against's of PCT. Alot of mixed views, plus I felt terrible when I did use Nolva. Very toxic IMO

Kieron

I guess there is an arguement for pct that it inhibits the bodies production of oestrogen, thus allowing your natural test to kick back in sooner. In effect getting you back to an anabolic state quicker and thus keeping more of the gains.

I know catabolic & anabolic states don't quite work like that but its the best way I can describe what I am trying to say. You don't want female hormones, you want the male test to aid growth.

Rsmat

iTrader: (2)

conor lad not having ago but why do you need steroids mate? your suppose to be joining the para`s mate...which from the way you speak on hear im beginning to think your full of shit..hope im wrong...sort ya sen out mate.

conor.rst

iTrader: (3)

kiddie and kerion seem very clued up just a few questions to you two.

So for a first cycle you would advise oral (tablets) dbol for 6weeks ?

there are alot of online shops that sell gear seems abit dodgy tho they they sell them so freely to the public is it ok to buy from these online shops ? or are they full of shit ?

conor.rst

iTrader: (3)

Another good read http://articles.muscletalk.co.uk/art...roids-faq.aspx