badboy rs

right this quesion is for the guys that ve taken steroids before or have some decent knowledge about them,

i've been doin weights since i was 18 and i've just turned 21 few weeks ago, when i started weights i was 82 kg(13 stones) but after 3 years of hard work and dedication i've only gained 2 stones and i weigh 15 stones now, but i'm stuck on 15 stones for the last 6 months and haven't actually put on any weight, thats with eatin quality food, not enough but as much as i can.

my question is, is it really woth taking steroids?
what bad can it do to you?

cheers guys

badboy rs

any1?

Dayle

They can put unescasary presure and stress on your heart steroids are mainly use for when people are tuminaly ill and need to gain excess weight quick. friends of mine have been on the in the past and i noticed mood swings with them they clicked at the slightest things and would snap and think they owned the world lets say they dont have as many friends as they used too. If you want to do it the proper way just keep doing it how you are doing.

BigErn

I have took them before mate and I managed to hit 20st while on them!

Have a look on www.bodybuilding.com

Its a good website full of info and tips, type steroid profile in the search bar for comprehensive info on side effects and gains etc.

Mick Hart is known for having comprehensive knowledge and understanding of all things steroid related.

Type Mick Hart/No Bull in a google search and you should find a link that helps.

Consult your doctor before taking anything

As for needles and the like, try to locate your nearest needle exchange and go and register. Its not nice bein there with all the local smack heads but its the safest way. NEVER USE NEEDLES MORE THAN ONCE!!!!!!!

Good luck mate, happy growing.

Charlie Chalk

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Friend of mine is on - Bionabol Anabolica Metandienonum


To say its worked is an understatement!



He does a 6 week course on, 6 weeks off... then back on etc

I keep thinking about them

snedboy

Gotta agree with Pennywise they do make one hell of a difference.I know someone who was training for a bit,looked good etc but just waseant seeing what he wanted so gave em a try and jesus within 2 weeks was the size of a house and i aint joking only thing is the side effects.His temper has increased dramatically and he gets alot of pain in his joints from lifting silly weights but takes stuff to try and help these things.

Ive thought bout it but just dont know what to do really

FAST AS FORD

If you want to compete in any event (which allows steroid use of course) then yes, to stand any chance. Otherwise, why?

badboy rs

thanks for replyin guys, it's jus that i feel like i'm not gonna get any bigger but then i don't know whether it's worth riskin it? i mean put the body through the stress that you get from steroids.
it's jus the side effects that i'm worried about

M.A.D.RST

Mate is that injection? You heard much about Dianabol?

Charlie Chalk

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I know fuck all about them.. Enlighten me please

I 'think' there tablets, But he's just gone onto injection, As there ment to be better?

Whats Dianabol.......??

M.A.D.RST

Yea injection is better
Dianabol is tablets and from what you said it sounds similar to what your mate was on

Charlie Chalk

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Oh ok


I dunno if to try them

Do you do them yourself?

FastFordChris

Dont forget fella your only 21, so your bodies metabolism is very high, once you start to get older it slows down which will make it easier to put weight on. why do you think some of the biggest athletes are in there 30's

the thing is with things like steroids is they mess with your bodies natural chemical balance, so at the other end of it you could end up becomming a fat coont when you decide to give it all up.
not to mention the long term side effects.

Martinshuter

the trouble with gear is that people are quite uneducated about them and they get a really bad press.

FYI- didnabol is a very toxic oral steroid. Good gains get made but lots of it is water retention and the majority gets lost when you come off.

Ive been doing gear for 5 years and properly i might add, having correct rest time and PCT medicines, ie Chlomid, Nolvadex.

im 18.3 stones now and my body fat is around 8 percent.

Gear does work, end of story, but only if your diet is right !!!!!!

if you need some info gove me a shout

badboy rs

MARTIN, thanks for the reply mate,

can i jus ask wat u used for your first cycle when you started gear?

and did you get anyside effects from it?

cheers

M.A.D.RST

Martinshuter, have you heard of Tamoxifan? think its a clenser

Kieron

Tamoxifen is an anti Estrogen like Nolvadex & Clomid menioned above. Actually I think Nolvadex is a brand name for Tamoxifen?

Anyway, Badboy get yourself onto: www.muscletalk.co.uk and have a look around. They have a very open steriod forum and some very useful and informative articles. Just read all you can and do your homework.

badboy rs

thanks for the info mate

Martinshuter

my first cycle was a simple 12 week cycle of testosterone enanthate. it was done 1ml twice a week. side effects? hhmmm yep, i put on a 2 stone in solid muscle. i had a little temper problem and when you come off as your natural testosterone levels balance out again, my back got a few spots only 1 or 2 but they hurt. That was it really. test is quite a mild substance so i didnt really get many sides.

Tamoxifen is just an estrogen blocker, it shuts down the estrogen receptors so you dont get gyno (man boobs) the product name is like i say, Nolvadex

the cycle im on now is very very potent and strong. but really harsh as well

tpaul

If i was you mate i would keep on going the way you are and be happy. Gear does work there is no doubt about that but at the end of the day it does not do you any good in the long term
I would think about your long term health rather than todays gains
Paul

juss 1

Log on to this site this is the best bar non and is also english. Mick hart is ok but very financially motivated ive been a memebr of his no bull etc and allyou do is get inundated with spam try the site listed below he is excellent and gives free advice no probs.

www.area9.net

Basically mate you should read as much info as you can its really silly to post on a site (esp a car related one) as how do you know who is offering what advice it could be some 10 year old kid who has logged on to a site and given you half hearted info he has read.

Steriods work period BUT you need to educate yourself in what will work for you and what wont it anit just as simple as getting gear and taking it well not if you value your health hair complection and friends as these will all suffer if used incorrectly..

knowledge is power so get reading besides dude 2 stone in 3 years is not bad going and is very good naturally...

you may just need a different aproach to training like i say log on to the site above its the bollocks

Martinshuter

justin,

im only offering advice mate based on my experiences and training in a gym like the temple gym i get good quality advice. Im not a numpty offering duff advice, its all first hand experience. as long as the cycles are well prepared and the gear is real and the diet is right then it WILL work, but my only advice is have the proper rest periods and sort your PCT.

Not having a go mate. Muscle talk is also another great source of advice.

juss 1

whao!!!Martin i cant see any where were ive said anybody was a numpty let alone your good self infact your saying exactly what i am and that is get good advice BUT as ive said its (in my opinion) ludacris to ask on a car related site what gear he should take and how, i know lads who grow like weeds off prima now for me all it did was make my hair fall out (to much dht in it like all bolin derived steriods its made up of it) BUT that dont mean its not right for every one.

All im saying is no one knows any one better than you do yourself so if he goes on to related sites (ie steroid) he is gonna get it from people who know what there on about look at the posts above theres people who dont even know what dianabol is now come on hardly the rarest of steriod is it, infact people still insist they can get it now legit and its been discontinued for years!!!

Any way mate sorry if you interperated it wrong but it was not in any way going against your opinion i was just trying to give the lad a bit of sound advice.

you would not shop in tescos for your protien powder (youd go to a gym or reputable source) so why ask for something as serious as steriod advice on a car site. get me drift??

badboy rs

JUSS 1:

thanks for the info. yes mate, you are right. i should really ask this in a different forum which is to do with bodybuilding but there are people in this forum who have done gear properly and actualy do bodybuilding competitions.

so i jus wanted to see if they could share their opinions as well.

juss 1

yeah fair point mate ive done all that my self at a local level (north of britain) and was just offering my point of view to be honest with you if i could go back id stay natural even with nolvadex hcg liv 52 etc all the preventaives there are you still get side effects and its now a good 8 years since i even took a tablet or injection im probably only possibly a stone heavier than i would be if i never done the gear(unless you train all the time it is very hard to maintain the mass steriods give and a good 50% is water retention anyway) granted i was 15 1/2 stone with 12% body fat nearly most of the time and down to roughly 14 3/4 ripped at 5 foot 8 that is quite big.. im now 13 1/2 stone.......................................and still 5 foot 8 LOL.

it doesnt matter what any one says once you embark on taking gear it becomes an obsession you WILL never think your as big as you could be its actually reconised as an opposite effect desease as annarexia bodybuilders always think they look smaller than they do,

But as i say and believe everyone is entitled to there opinion as you said you are young im now 36 BUT when i was your age i wanted it fast but honestly mate 2 stone increase in 3 years is good (really good) gains,please have a look at the website i mentioned the guy who runs it james is very very knowledgeble im sure he could help you maintain your natural training and gain still



Is that you reiger escort in your avatar or just a pic youve used i used to love the reiger kits class...

badboy rs

thanks for the advice justin, tbh every1 i talk to says the same thing to me about doing it natuarally unless if i'm gonna compete, which i'm not gonna at this age anyway.
i suppose it jus takes a long time to get bigger once you've reached your level.

and that reiger escort aint mine, i sold my s2 last yar before i start uni and got myself a 328i, somthin reliable for now till i finish uni and will be back in the ford scene soon again.

Paul Eggleton

If its your first time, you'll only need a small amount to kick you over your natural limits. I got on very well with just a 10 week course a couple of times a year.

allbluepete

hey bud if you train to stay fit and healthy and attract the other sex just keep training naturally
if you want to fuck youself up and look like a sideshow freak get on the gear quick

Paul Eggleton

Each to there own. Bodybuilding can become very addictive.

M.A.D.RST

Well thats just bollocks

allbluepete

yip i know that,but when it becomes like reverse anorexia its fucking sad,steroids make you look unnaturally big yet you stand in front of the mirror thinking like that bird on the fast show "do my pecs look small in this,are my bi's alright" ,bodybuilding competition is a fucking joke outside bodybuilding circles,would never look up to someone who calls themself an athlete but it is all based on how much drugs you can pump into yourself,i know you train hard and i know you starve yourselves to compete but WHY?because most peeps i know just think you are freaks but would be a bit intimidated to call you that to your face,then again i've got the benifit of stella and the internet
hey i have trained for years but am going through a bit of a low point right now not seen a gym for a couple of years but am going back on monday,plenty of cardio,boxing 3 times a week,decent weight for sets of 15-12-10 works for me and most importantly good diet and no fuckin drugs

allbluepete

read above dude was going to reply personally to you but you will prob just say its bollocks anyway

badboy rs

paul that is so true mate, bodybuildin is fuckin addictive and once you stop doin it , it fucks your head up, all that anerexia shit.you 'll never think you look as good as before and lose your confidence.

but then 90% of my mates that do gear tell me jus do it naturally, aint worth it.

can i jus ask what gear you used paul and what dosage?

allbluepete

almost agree bud but the anorexia thing is happening while you are training as well,used to look in the mirror all the time wen i got in from the gym,it was that that kept me going cos i always thought i looked a bit better week by week,i dont train for size though am happy with my physique just need to get rid of the fat,but know guys who compete as well as a mr britain and an ex mr universe,the mr universe is a genetic freak,he stopped training for about 5 years and went back to the gym for 6 months and looked fucking awesome in bodybuilding terms at 45 years old,if he competed now would wipe the floor with all the seniors in the uk and he is like 56 now

OB1

People that don't bodybuild seriously i feel never understand us folk who train, who have to train no matter what. Bodybuilding at what ever level (not the people who train for a week then stop for years or go once a month and call themselves bodybuilders ) is addictive and is like a drug, i can't do anything or go anywhere until i've trained lol. Some people take the piss but they don't have a clue, it's only serious trainers that understand how we feel when we havent trained (lol). when i tell people how i get when i haven't trained or missed a session they just don't understand . It is addictive and can be dangerous if you go taking shite loads of gear without educating youself. It is a personal choice at the end of the day and every person will have different results on gear. Some people have very little side effects and get massive, some people take the gear, end up with loads of side effects and have no gains. One of the problems being some people think if they fill themselves with gear sit on their arse and eat big macs they'll look like arnold. End of the day , it's personal choice, what you want to achive and how you train. there's no point in doing gear if you train once or twice a week or when "you're in the mood". It's about diet and training intelligentally , rest, vitamins, suppliments, water etc.

allbluepete

i think competing is about drugs,training,supplements,diet in the close season and drugs,diet,training,in the lead up to a comp.
also think you are a bit obsessed bud,but hey have been in that place in the past but there is more to life than going down the gym and comparing the size of your bits to other guys

badboy rs

i know what you mean, im the same at times mate, but the thing is i train at least 5 days a week each body part once or twice a week and i eat quality food like a fat cunt as well but it jus seems to take a fuckin long time to get huge

thats why i'm so tempted to do gear

OB1

if you're stuck then you need to take a break away from weights for at least two weeks, then change your training as muscle gets used to the same old routine. try different exercises for a bit, different amount of set/reps etc for a while and see how it goes.

Martinshuter

i agree with pete to a degree. Bodybuliding and taking steroids Can become an obsession, i dont agree with the "it can fuck you up" jibe. i have been doing gear for quite some time and am not a look in the mirror everyday kind of weightlifter. I train for strength and power so size really isnt a massive issue.

ive always stood by the fact that if you do gear properly and take correct rest periods with the correct PCT it will be fine. Lots of side effects are dependant on your bodies genetic makeup.

i think the top pros like ronnie coleman, jay cutler and lee priest look weird but people who do it outside of competitions dont look too bad because they have neither the knowledge, money or diet to achieve that size.

just my opinion.

badboy rs

thanks for the info guys