Aforbes88

Evening all

Just wondering if there are any other hardcore trainers on here ?

By hardcore I mean training & (fords) are all you think about like myself ? Spend alot of time in gym and thinking about when your next meal comes around to feed the mass?

Personally I eat sleep and breath training it's my life and lifestyle always want to lift that bit more next gym session and always wanting to grow!


Andy

Dirty Harry

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well done if that makes you happy

bigluke200

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Awesome. Used to be like that.
Now wife, child and business get in the way a little.. Find my cossie even takes over my mind more nowadays.

Go for it man until life gets in the way!!

Not that I'm trying to make excuses.. Currently really enjoying training! (As a bodybuilder)

bigluke200

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Hope that doesn't sound patronising btw.. I'm a little jealous!

Aforbes88

Trying to workout if that's sarcasm or genuine specialist ?

Yeah my works kind of getting way too as work offshore month on month off its hard to train properly at work so smash it hard when home!

You been training long luke?

Aforbes88

No not at all bud lol

bigluke200

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15 years with the last couple being hardly at all..
Been back on the case recently

Have you got a gym offshore then mate? (Rig?)

Aforbes88

Oright cool I've been training for about 6 years but seriously for past 2.

No I'm on supply ship for rig so it's even worse when sea's are rough! But when it's nice in summer and its roasting its great training on deck using 5inch thick mooring ropes for pulling a 5 20kg shackles up the deck. And getting a wicked tan too haha have to improvise alot with heavy shackles and thick chain ect good though keeps it interesting

bigluke200

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Lol mate that sounds awesome! Very different! Love it

stevenebm

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Need some pics6 years training should have some decent mass.been strict myself for about 3 years but do have to enjoy life also as it can interfere with family life.

Aforbes88

Yeah il some pics I'm home fri and il get some over weekend. Yeah 6 years and 2 years seriously might start a cycle in couple of months. But jabbing at work will be hard!

I take my hat off to you Steve read through your cutting thread well done mate!

Kieron

I wont say I think about it all the time, much more important things in life, but I am relatively serious.

Depends on what you're comparing it too though. My non gym mates would probably say I am obsessed and its a waste of time and some of my gym mates would think I wasn't on it enough...

Any decent gyms in Gorleston/Yarmouth then?

Mats1985

I train hard and trying to diet at the same time which I don't think my body can cope trained hard on chest on Wednesday night as my chest lets me down so try train that harder but I'm bolloxed after a chest session for 2-3 days after at wrk I struggle I woke up early hours fri morning my whole body was killing and muscles where so sore I felt like I had the flue and was run down was shivering which made my muscles worse next day felt like shit so had loads of crappy food which made a difference but trying to train hard and diet is hard and my body can't cope

delbee1

You don't need to diet as such just need to eat the right things at the right times, try taking some BCAA's or the iBCAA's as they dissolve better in the water, try taking before, a little during if a heavy session and then some after with protein, should help with the aches

Mats1985

I have eggs in the morning around 7ish at 10 ill have a chicken sarnie on brown bread and a apple at 1:30 ill have chicken and rice and a apple then around 6ish ill have a normal tea what ever the mrs cooks lol I try to stay of the shakes cus they seem to bloat me but thinking I may need to start on them again because I'm getting so sore and run down if I don't thanks for the advise iv been meaning to buy some bcaa for ages

delbee1

The meals your having aren't too bad, the eggs in the morning you wanna have at least 4 egg whites + one whole egg. The chicken sarnie is not too bad but the apple would also count as carbs so your overloading there. You want to try and have 5-6 meals a day, eat every 2 and a hlf to 3 hours. Meal replacements I find are helpful when eating on the go, I used to get Mypolex but tey don't make it anymore so looking for alternative as I'm getting back on the training.

Try micro of hydro whey after training as it has a faster uptake, that along with the BCAA's should help stop you aching so much

Mats1985

It's knowing what to eat and how much to eat every 3hrs I struggle with

delbee1

6-8 oz of chicken, and a portion of carbs and veg, so a cup worth of broccoli or cabbage for example and around the same of carbs, another way to gauge is around a fist size, so for instance if having jacket spud, look for one the size of your fist

Depending on what your goals are would depend on how much calories a day you eat

Mats1985

Oh ryt sound the other thing is making it so It dosnt get boring at the mo I add spices on the chicken and try different sauces for the rice etc but I worrie that the sauces are no good it's just trying to find things to stop it getting boring

delbee1

Yeah that is a problem, if using sauces try low fat ones, couscous is a very good carb to have, much better than rice, gimme 5 and I'll post up a sample menu

Mats1985

Ok m8 cheers

delbee1

Upon waking immediately drink 300 ml of Ice cold water

Meal #1 6am-7am
8 egg whites
1 whole egg
Oatmeal 1 cup cooked
Cal: 371 Fat 8.9g Carb: 30.6g Protein: 41g

Meal #2
Cooked chicken breast, 6 oz
Brown rice, 1 cup cooked
Broccoli, 1 cup cooked
Cal: 399 Fat: 4g Carb: 45.6g Protein: 43.1g

Meal #3
Cooked chicken breast, 6 oz
Brown rice,1 cup cooked
Broccoli, 1 cup cooked
Cal: 399 Fat: 4g Carb: 45.6g Protein: 43.1g

Meal #4
Tuna, 1.5 cans
Brown rice, 1 cup cooked
Black beans, 1 cup cooked
Spinach, 1 cup cooked
Cal: 590 Fat: 6.7g Carb: 68.4g Protein: 62.035g

Meal #5
Fish (tilapia), 8 oz
Baked potato, 6 oz
Asparagus, 1 cup cooked
Cal: 510 Fat: 4g Carb: 64g Protein: 56g

TOTAL ESTIMATE:
Cal: 2,269 Fat: 28.6g Carb: 254g Protein: 245g

NOTES
Drink 2.5ltrs - 3ltrs of water through the day
eat every 3 hours and DO NOT SNACK between meals

If possible eat your first meal between 6 & 7am so you do not run to late in the evening with the last meal if you want have a Whey protein shake before bed if you still feel hungry.

Now I dont eat fish so I mainly eat chicken, turkey and eggs when I train

Mats1985

Yeah I hate fish and I struggle with veg some make me gag but the looks like a good diet 2 years or so ago I was realy into my training but the rs turbo seemed to take up my evenings but that's been off the road this year and realy started to get bk into my training again last 2months or so need to get diet sorted loose a bit of fat then maybe get on some jabs when that's all sorted

delbee1

There are a lot of places doing supergreens supplement which has very high content, try those

Try stay off the jabs mate, you cant beat hard work, yes you will get to where you want quicker but long term is very bad, try stay natural

Mats1985

Thanks m8 for your advice been realy good and noted cheers

delbee1

My pleasure mate, glad it helped

Just really think hard on the jabs, I know people who did them and they are having all sorts of problems now. Remember you do it to add mass to your muscles, your heart is working at the same time so can cause that to enlarge as well as all sorts of other things...be careful

Mats1985

Sound cheers I know a few people that do them and every1 in the gym seems to b on them I just need to loose some fat and get more size on the chest never seems to grow but gets realy sore after I train chest and dose take it out of me for a couple of days after it all seems to go to my shoulders etc dont even have to train them and they seem to grow hahaha

Kieron

Now you've actually said what you want, maybe you could give some details about your size/bmi etc and comment on your training.

Then it might be better to advise a diet plan.

bigluke200

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Why on earth would you want to drink ice cold water upon waking?
Surely you'd be delaying gastric emptying and therefore slowing the influx of nutrients into your body when you need them most..?
Enlighten me

Mats1985

I was wondering that

Kieron

I think the theory behind it is that it lowers body temp so your body raises it's metablism to counter. Plus takes away hunger.

Popular adevice in commercial gyms with pt's atm.

StephenC

I'd rather go juice of one lemon in warm water first thing.

SBT83

I didn't think lowering your body temp started metabolism? Higher core temps raise metabolism. My routine wasn't as strict as delves but helped me lose fat and convert to muscle. I know protein shakes are something of a myth. But a good pure whey protein packed with amino acids will kick start your body's attemp to break fat down.

Yogurts for breakfast are good as are easily broke down. Chicken and couscous all the way for dinner! Chicken and a small amount of pasta will help your body keep fuel till morning. Pasta is a good carb for stocking fuel. Either a decent amount for dinner which will fuel you for afternoon gym, or as said a small amount for tea. Tuna before bed if still hungry is good for protein and omega 3 through the night. Nuts and seeds are an excellent snack as the fatty oils are good for you.

Protein shake in the morning, at dinner and no longer than 30 mins after workout. 3l of water through out the day is enough.

Everyone finds something to work for them. And this did for me.

Delbee what shakes do you use?

Aforbes88

Totally forgot I'd put this up haha! Il get some pics up later if anyone still wants to see lol

StephenC

Not wanting to start a row but??

SBT83

No row at all! Debate! Did I forget to mention winstrol?

SBT83

Fact is protein shakes are debatable to work! I personally believe they do!

SBT83

As any runner or cyclist will tell you carbs will slow release energy throughout the day if you train 2 or 3 times a day or even work all day and train at night it will help. Mixed diet is key to healthy body

SBT83

Also should mention that no matter what site, forum, gym you go to for advise everything's contradicting what other people's methods are. No one can agree on what's best. Hence why I mentioned find out what worked best for you

stevenebm

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Good to see the bro science in full force