krypton

Just wondering what most people are doing for shoulders in there workout?

P412KER

military press, shruggs, arnies, for me mil press is the most benificial..

Coldo

krypton

Nice one guys. Not been at the gym that long but shoulders are the only thing dont really have a good workout for.

Benni

Why on the cable? I was under the impression it's best to do a dumbell bent over raise. I would also throw in some behind the neck press, as this is my favourite excersize and as long as you don't go too heavy you should be fine. Put some of the above suggestions in youtube and you'll see others doing them if you want to look at their form/technique.

Benni.

Kieron

I would say you need to do more than chuck in side raises every now and again. These are the one exercise that really hits the middle head of the delt. The shoulder is broken down into three parts, front, middle and posterior.

Personally I do Military press or seated dumbell press for the front head. Dont forget this also gets worked with chest a bit.
Side and front raises for the middle head
and bent over side raises for the rear which tends to get hit when training back a bit.

As with everything form is very important but more so with shoulders imho as people tend to cheat alot, especially with the side raises. You do not need alot of weight to hit them correctly. I see far too many people leaning forward with the downward movement and then throwing themselves back to cheat the weights up. They always have far too much weight on the ends of their arms and rarely have their arms extended out, elbows are always bent to bring the weight in close to their bodies. If you want your shoulders to look like footballs from a front on view then I would make side raises your new best friend.

Shrugs are for your traps which can be trained either with shoulders or back. Its down to personal preference. I always used to do them with back but I have recently been really getting into my back routine and added deadlifts to it so I now train traps with shoulders as I am less knackered by the end of that session than I am with back.

Benni

Very good inforamation, I agree on the side laterals. I've never missed this or the bent over ones once.

Benni.

krypton

Good info there guys

gibbo frst

iTrader: (2)

i had some advice off godzila on here on shoulders and he advised behind the neck presses.. took a while to get used to it for me but ive really noticed more change in my shoulders this past year since doing them than i did with 10 years training where dumbell presses were my main.... guess just try and see whats best for you..

Mr Brannen

Realy are they that good, never realy bothered with them tbh, will start if Godz reccomends them though

snedboy

I deffo feel they give a much more pumped look after training them this way but in all honesty i very rarely do shoulder workouts as i fell they get used enough in various other excercises so only add in a shoulder workout maybe 1 per month!

Benni

I'm surprised at that! Surely you can't be getting all the different heads unless you target them?

Benni.

snedboy

I cant and dont but im happy with how my shoulders are tbh and thats why i dont bother training them that often

Jordy05

Training your shoulders will affect several other muscles mate. I never used to train them but after including them in my routine i noticed improvements in my bench press and t bar rows. Its all connected somehow

bigluke200

iTrader: (3)

IMO training rear delts as a priority is key to shoulder width (from the side), they are muscles that are hardly used in our everyday lives so will always lag behind - very hard to hit em right though!

Kieron

IMO rear delts get hit when training back. Any wide grip pulling exercise will hit them, i.e t-bars, seated rows, bentover rows.

Its the sides that most people miss out on as they dont get hit with anything else.

marky_g

i been doin super sets lately a press with a raise normally totally fucks ya

like standing should press with side raises and seated Arni curls with front raises 5 sets of each job done, dont do a dedicated rear delt exercise can feel them and traps with standing press (if i start with it)

for traps upright rows and shrugs front and rear on the smith machine

got used to it very quickly tho

first time i ever did it id never had my shoulders so exhausted literally couldn't lift my arms