marky_g

anyone used it?

whats good to stack it with?

been told its a massive fat burner as well.

snedboy

Far too expensive and needs to be taken for 6months to be worth it when you could do 6 months good diet and cardio and get twice as much fat loss

Better off doing a better cycle alone rather than adding this in tbh

micreed

as sned said way to costly..wouldnt bother unless you were top levle comp..much cheaper better options for most

marky_g

well i'd like to think i have a good diet, 6 small meals a day, 2/3 hours apart.

i train hard and do 30mins cardio after every workout but i still have a lot of fat around my stomach,

tried adding a morning 30 min cardio session but i put on weight.

my arms legs back chest are all ok minimal fat, just my middle

was advised to try growth to help shift it and not lost muscle, just though id ask if anyone had tried it

i was going to go on Reductil but its just an appetite sup present and fear i'll lose the gains in muscle i have made

snedboy

The only tue way to shift fat is dieat and cardio.High protein low carb and atleast 40mins cardio per session as first 20mins your body doesnt burn fat

You will always loose muscle when on a cut no way around it even with growth tbh and as i already said costs way too much to justify unless your pro

To help maintain muscle you could use a low dose of test like 250mg per week as its cheapest 'cutting' steroid

marky_g

humm i think summer commin then its cardio to the max, thats what i did last time

i was goin to be getting growth at 170 a course

snedboy

So Ł170 is for 6 months worth that what your saying? That'll be generic stuff @ 100iU's and running minimum 4iU's per day wont last long,not even a month to be precise,and it being generic aint even the real deal its stuff made to same spec but nowhere near as strong the real stuff costs double that!!

Also got to remember that from Aug to end of Jan your body naturally stores fat to keep your body warm during winter and there is nothing you can do about it so you will find from here on your body will start to burn the fat better and the stubborn fat around your stomach will start to shift

Good luck m8

marky_g

nah not 6months worth, it was just something i was considering

iave tried many different ways

1st off i did morning cardion evening weights

then just cardio

then was told to add weights into cos you burn more fat that way

then i was told to add the cardio on after the weights -this helped and i load a fair bit

but now i have been doin that for 9/12 months i'm starting to put on weight again nothings changed still eat as clean as i did i prob drink less, lift heavier etc etc

i no muscle weighs more than fat and all that but i no the bellys gettin bigger lol, like i said above tho everywhere apart from my midriff is leaner than before, just seem to be developing more of a stomach

rs_turbo_lad

doing 200 sit-ups a night would help burn fat around stomach,save urself a bomb doing it that way,

marky_g

i may try that i havent done any ads work in ages maybe that why my bellys comin back lol in theory tho it should make me look fatter muscle under the fat?

rs_turbo_lad

i had a wee bit of belly last summer nothing major tho, but i went to boxing and we were doing 300 sit ups a night , 3 times a week and my stomach def went alot flatter and i lost weight doing boxing but was toned same time, we wer doing 50 sit ups 50 press ups then same again, then 50 and 50 before went home

marky_g

yer boxers physique is a good look good

think maybe ur onto something with the sit ups since i stoppd doin them my bellys got flabbier prod where its not being exercised at all

rs_turbo_lad

soz 150 sit ups per night ,

dp1958

fat store for cold winter, is this a fact

snedboy

More interesting still, LPL levels in humans also rise and fall in tandem with the seasons. Researchers from the University of Colorado studied a group of 12 women and 6 men in both the summer and winter.
Summer was classed as May through August. Winter was classed as November through February. LPL activity in both muscle and fat increased during the winter, and dropped during the summer.
Winter also sees a change in the activity of several fat-burning and muscle-building hormones.
For example, cortisol levels reach a low point in the summer . Not only is cortisol associated with the storage of abdominal fat, it's also been linked to all kinds of health problems, including diabetes, heart disease and depression. Cortisol may also weaken your immune system, leaving you more susceptible to colds and flu.
Testosterone, a powerful hormone which helps you build muscle and lose fat, tends to peak in the summer and early autumn. It also reaches a low point in the winter and early spring.

marky_g

interesting stuff

snedboy

I also used to read about human shit from Readers Digest when i was younger and read it then aswell

dp1958

thats good info,because i seem to have a wee bit more on over winter but use this to my advantage and train as heavy as possible for a bit of size,then drop poundages back slightly in the summer and cut out some of the fats again this is good info... cheers......

snedboy

No probs m8 im always here to help dont know everything though,just like to think i do

marky_g

are u 16? 16 year old no everything

snedboy

Fuckin wish i was 16 again!! nah turnin the big 3 0 this year