Trist

when I do biceps in my routine, I do back and Bi's and alternate from starting on back one week then biceps the next week.
trouble is I can excersise them really hard untill my arms wont straighten, and they dont seem to be growing or hurting the next day.
When I do any other I really know about it the next day and I am getting good growth now but not with biceps.
I have always been that little bit stronger on Bi's than other things and push them that little bit more.
I have got good excersises off of pro body builders in the gym but still wont get bigger.
my arms look bigger as my Triceps are developing well from when I started. (1year 6mths)

any ideas

Stu @ M Developments

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I have this exact same problem with mine and always have had mate.

FastFordChris

struggle with this due to having long arms, (just over 78inch reach) so in turn you need to be alot bigger in the arms then someone with a shorter reach.

i found using the bar was useless so stay using dumbbells, isolate the area as best you can in your workout routine and stay with it as consistancy is the key to gaining muscle mass.

don't get disheartened if your not seing much increase in size at first, look for tone increases, cut lines in the solders and just above the elbow, as the muscle will tone first before it begins to grow.

pani_k

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when you do your bicep curls with the dumbells, make sure your are putting all the lifting power on the bicep. Its tempting sometimes (you might not even know about it) for your arm to be doing some of the work so just make sure when you lift (90 degree elbow all that) its the bicep doing everything!

Kieron

What is your routine? Exercises, sets, reps??

homer j

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i have the opposite problem. bi's grow well but struggle to get results else where. fucking annoying really

Trist

On biceps I will do 4 excersises usually after doing 4 back.
always try not to do the same routine for muscle memory, would usually do incline curls with dumbells 20 (10 a side) or would do them at the same time doing 8-10.
then preacher curls (narrow) 8-10
over head cable curls 8-10
finish on cable hammers 21s

Kieron

Sounds good enough to me.

I don't know why but if I train Biceps after back I get a different type of burn. They are already a little tired from doing back obvisously and I think I don't hit them right or hard enough as they are already fatigued. Doesn't make logical sense I know! I can ache like hell in the gym but then the next day when I'm expecting not to be able to move without wincing they are fine.

Maybe have a go at training them on a night by themselves and see how you go? When you say 8-10 reps is that to failure? With a couple of them reps being squeezed out with a spot? If not then they should be.

How about throwing in a couple of heavy sets? EZ curl bar, standing curls, loaded up so that you can force out 2-3 by yourself and then a couple of extra's with a spot. They should get you.

As a personal note I don't find the cable exercises to be as beneficial as free weights. Thats just me being oldfashioned though but it may be worth a thought.

Keep us updated!

ESCYSCOTT

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thing is imo if you do back & biceps in the same routine you are using similar motions (pulling) for all exercises thus not giving them enough time to heal.........tell me to shut the fuck up if i'm wrong?

I do...

Chest & Biceps (push & pull)

Triceps & Back (push & pull)

Shoulders & Abs

It works for me as your not over fatiuging your muscles thus letting your form drop or not finishing your sets near the end.

Trist

Kieron
Yeh the last few reps are helped with a spot, the preacher bar is an EZ bar, I also do standing curls as you mentioned, and I know what your saying about free weights being better I get on with them a lot more but have been advised on cable excersises by the bigger boys with arms that look like a giant uncarved keebabs sticks before they have been hacked at lol
ESCYSCOTT
that sound good I will give that a go.

thanks all for the advice

FastFordChris
I know where your coming from there as I have long arms and half the trouble is stretching the bicep down to the elbow. when I tence them there is a gap from bicep to elbow where there is no muscle of about an inch and half.

Kieron

ez bar is the bar, preacher is the bench you use So I assumed when you said preacher curls you meant to be seated on a bench. I am suggesting standing curls. HTH's

Trist

Yes I do seated preachers with the EZ bar narrow and wide grip and also standing curls withe EZ or olympic bar