ulitmate orange

iamrab · 20-09-2006, 06:02 PM

anyone using this yet??

its just been brought back t the market after being banned and its amazing and i mean that ....take 5 ins of redbull and your not even close

its crazy stuff just makes u totally alert and all hyper and jumppy for before trainning ...its great if u train about 7 like say after work cos normally im wrecked ..this stuff changes everything for me lol

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Martinshuter · 21-09-2006, 02:03 PM

but is loaded with cafeine and supresses your hunger therefore killing your diet and not allowing you to eat enough so your muscles wont grow!!

juss 1 · 06-10-2006, 06:04 PM

used to be full of ephidrine does it still have that in it???

AndyBlackFRST · 09-10-2006, 12:08 PM

More details here....

http://websites.uk-plc.net/247Weight...range_Rush.htm

RonnyD · 09-10-2006, 04:33 PM

It includes no ephedrin, instead of ephe. they take bitter orange ( synephrin ) but syneph. is by far not as potent as ephe. and both are alpha agonists. Rest is coffein and bla bla. So if you want to be 24 hours on the feet, take a "good" dose and see what happens.
For fat burning is it totally contraproductive because of it's alpha way; for fat burning you must go the beta 2 way. Ephe. + syneph. has both a 20% to 80% range of beta to alpha agonists. But syneph. is not so good binding to the receptor.
The only way to stop the alpha way is to take a alpha antagonist ( Yohimbine ) which is a potent alpha antagonist. But 20% of beta for fat burning is like pissing in a river.
Best for fat burning is Clenbuterol, but it's only legal by prescription and under control of a physican.
If you only want to be alert and hype, take it.

Best

Yours

Ronny

juss 1 · 14-10-2006, 03:01 PM

quite correct ronny i find using a product called pro plus (caffiene tablets) with asprin and ephidrine the best cutters.

there is also a product called hydroxycutz which i used with good effect for cutting up but obviously with reduced carbs and extra aerobics..

best thing to take if your struggling for energy in the gym is a rest!!! take a week off come back with renewed vigour as your sleepin will be more productive as your actually resting instead of healing as it were

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juss 1 I'm Finding My Feet Here Now Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: County Durham Posts: 136 Rep Power: 9	quite correct ronny i find using a product called pro plus (caffiene tablets) with asprin and ephidrine the best cutters. there is also a product called hydroxycutz which i used with good effect for cutting up but obviously with reduced carbs and extra aerobics.. best thing to take if your struggling for energy in the gym is a rest!!! take a week off come back with renewed vigour as your sleepin will be more productive as your actually resting instead of healing as it were __________________

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21-09-2006, 02:03 PM	#2
Martinshuter Regular Contributor Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Birmingham Posts: 218 Rep Power: 8	but is loaded with cafeine and supresses your hunger therefore killing your diet and not allowing you to eat enough so your muscles wont grow!!

09-10-2006, 04:33 PM	#5
RonnyD 15000 Garage is empty, add now Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hockenheim Posts: 34 Rep Power: 0	It includes no ephedrin, instead of ephe. they take bitter orange ( synephrin ) but syneph. is by far not as potent as ephe. and both are alpha agonists. Rest is coffein and bla bla. So if you want to be 24 hours on the feet, take a "good" dose and see what happens. For fat burning is it totally contraproductive because of it's alpha way; for fat burning you must go the beta 2 way. Ephe. + syneph. has both a 20% to 80% range of beta to alpha agonists. But syneph. is not so good binding to the receptor. The only way to stop the alpha way is to take a alpha antagonist ( Yohimbine ) which is a potent alpha antagonist. But 20% of beta for fat burning is like pissing in a river. Best for fat burning is Clenbuterol, but it's only legal by prescription and under control of a physican. If you only want to be alert and hype, take it. Best Yours Ronny

14-10-2006, 03:01 PM
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