constantine

Ford sierra cosworth RS sapphire 2wd, F reg. SPARES

WHATS IT WORTH

M.O.T til September 5th 2015
will be sorn
number of former keepers 6

i had the turbo blow so i got towed to my sisters and removed the turbo and had a new one done through gs motorsports at £850.

it turns out that was not the only thing went so now it sounds like the bottom end has gone or so i haven't look or done anything to it !!!!!!!!!!!!!

im currently looking to buy a house and can not afford to put any more money or time in to the car


Shell “never welded” has had full respray in original colour “moonstone blue” and painted black gloss underneath.
Brand new trimmed half leather fill interior including door cards cost £1500 alone.
Braided hoses “st st”
Poly bushes for whole car
Spax front shocks, koni rear shocks
New springs
Full 3”STST exhaust system
Standard ford radio and amp
Engine, fully built 205 blocked bottom end, inc ground&balanced crank, rods,pistons,flywheel.pistons +1.5mm wossner low comp forged pistons. Acl race competition main, end and thrust bearings.Burman new hp oil pump. Head is standard THIS WAS DONE BY THE PREVIOUS OWNER BUT NOW THERES A PROBLEM WITH THE BOTTOM END OR SO I THINK AS I HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO IT

BUT I HAVE PICTURE'S OF IT BEFORE IT WAS PUT TOGETHER

i don't have the any receipts for the bottom end but i have receipts for the work i have carried out and have done

total cost of receipts £3400

which include
t34 turbo hybrid £850 with 12 months warranty which has done done nothing no work what so ever
second hand gearbox from rs cosworth breaker £600
gap alarm toad a1606 thatcham 1 £350
sytec fuel pump £76
M.O.T and wheel aligment £77
gs motorsport setting up £450
parts from burton power totaling £342

theres stills loads of other receipts

and loads of other bits been done so much to list

now for the car there is a few bits that i will list for the paint work on the body

front driver side wing has a chip
driver side rear quarter has a chip
rear bumper exhaust side on the back of bumper and side has a chip out
bonnet has 4 chips on it
passenger rear arch has showing of rust
rear of the roof has a rusting patch
boot has chips on it and two little red paint patches
the rear spoiler has all little cracks on it and a different coloured screw cover

i have pictures showing the bits for any one who wants to see them

the side skirts are sagging a little due to clips have broken ( plastic clips )
the side skirts are missing the covers but i have them but needs respraying


there is two indents on the dash where the ecu cover its

im looking to see what it is worth as im not sure how much to ask for it in it's current condition

iv tryed to be honest about the car as best as i can be

any question or more details i will try to do my best to answer them

James Porter

iTrader: (1)

You have pm

jc2000e

what milage as the car done?
If the engine is total scrap. and need to buy s/h jobby still gota be worth between 5-6k surely

James Porter

iTrader: (1)

I'll have what you're smoking*

Have you seen the price of good second hand engines!?

Russ Payne

£4k tops

James Porter

iTrader: (1)

Will depend on overall condition, mileage, what needs doing...

Normally best to think of an amount you want realistically & go from there mate.

constantine

it went straight through an m.o.t with one minor which was the rear wheel beering with a little play in it and the mileage is 29099 which has been around the clock.

i done roughly 1200 miles running the engine and the turbo gave way and this is the result of the engine making a noirse

Cosnada

iTrader: (2)

1.5k tops for car as is.
Break it for a whole lot more. You won't get retail prices back nor Cosworth breaker prices but if you have the time get it broke I'd say.

constantine

whats it worth is a mix opinion some say 3k to 4k. 1k to 1.5k so basically its the old saying its only worth as much as any ones willing to pay for it

rsminter

for many the appeal of owning a cosworth is the engine
if that's knackered and needs a rebuild its not a cheap fix
all I would say pricewise is advertise it for what you would be
happy selling it for, if you get no takers its obviously priced too high.

Fullflush

2k if you are lucky

Good luck with the sale

Mark Tomlinson

put it on ebay ,auction ,you will get the market value, I would think between £1,800 to £2,800, cheers mark

PAUL S

iTrader: (8)

As said ebay will get you the best return, and a lot more than the low ball figures being quoted on here!

Jay,

iTrader: (4)

Exactly

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2wd-ford-s...item43dccfb5e6

Either there are some dreamers on this site or trying ti nick it for nothing

jessie_rs

£5000 the biddings at! Pretty ridiculous the cars abit of a dog and needs an awful lot spent on it.

Ebonycossie4x4

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wow 5K, if thats true what is the world coming to.

Jay,

iTrader: (4)

What are they worth ?

Dont think its a dog think thats a bit rough to say that

rog

iTrader: (2)

No one will pay £5k for that, sorry to say but if that's not bid up then the winner won't pay up when it ends.

eBay is awash with cossies, 99% of them will never sell and have been on there for months, escorts especially. Good luck with it though, it may help bag you a half decent offer at least.

jessie_rs

I agree rog it is not genuine bidding. I was bidding on an excellent condition shell complete apart from the engine. Black leather interior rare ebony black car all it needed was block, turbo, hoses importantly no paint or bodywork needed and that sold for £4700 which was big money it shot up £1000+ the last 2-3mins I was bidding also. Compared to this its looking like a bargain. This needs bodywork, paint and a complete engine rebuild, wheels and interior. Its a great colour but needs an awful lot to make even respectful, would make a great track starting point but noway near £5000

PAUL S

iTrader: (8)

Its a complete car not a rolling chassis the days of £2k saffs are long long gone, this one has a bit on an engine problem not a missing engine!

Good luck seller

jc2000e

Well 5k within a few hours, my guess isn't stupid as you thought!!

Roosie

iTrader: (8)

i has a bet it will make 6k, i would personally pay upto 6k as i know i could spend 1500 on tidying it up and keep it in my unit for 3-5 years and pull about 4-5k profit.

jessie_rs

This engine is a 205 block and it needs rebuilding. Everyone seems to not of read the condition of the exterior also who knows what its like underneath also.

jc2000e

I read that its been repainted so thought bodywise would be fine. Also never been welded was mentioned, there isnt many that havnt been welded at some point. Also having iirc £1500 on a 1/2 leather retrim seems like it as been looked after just unfortunate the engine as let go.

James Porter

iTrader: (1)

Like I've said a million times before, we they "sell" for & what they actually sell for is 2 different things.

bigryrs

iTrader: (10)

Prices of saphs, xr3i's, rs turbos, mk 1-2 escorts are a joke!

The majority of cosworths on ebay are overpriced shitters! Boy has a white one on just now with rusty front arches and no mot for 8k lol wtf! Wise up.

Seems 1 person started a trend by advertising their beloved ford at a stupid price and everybody has jumped on the bandwagon!

James Porter

iTrader: (1)

Agree mate.

Not saying this one is not worth it but just because it's gone straight up to £5k doesn't mean it's going to sell!

eBay is full of dreamers, messers & scammers, it's never that straight forward.

bigryrs

iTrader: (10)

My mate put up his 28k mile R5 GT turbo and it sold for 7750 but guess what? I seen him driving it the other day before i travelled back to work! Ebay is the worst place to sell anything and is full of dreamers with no cash to match their mouth!

jessie_rs

Only its covered in marks, chips, dents, the rear arches and roof are rusting hmmm

constantine

It interesting on the forum and peoples opinions

At the end of the day if it don't sell then I will just store it and not worry about it and leave it til such time I will do anything with it

Fil

That seems about right, probably find the highest bidder, has had one or two cossies before, and has the odd spare bit here and the there to get it back running asap.


Youve only gotta look at whats forsale these days not a lot of choice, as there aint too many left now, so prices are only going to go one way it seems!

YODI

iTrader: (1)

Ended, so what did you get for it mate out of curiosity?

155lee

iTrader: (10)

Have to disagree with you there,every rs I have either bought or in the past 8 years has been through eBay and I have bought and sold a lot.
I found forums are the worst place to buy or sell parts and cars never ever sell.
Partly because of where we live,nobody wants to come that far north.
There's time wastes and overpriced tat everywhere but like it or not eBay determines the value of cars and parts when it's an honest auction.

LHD220Turbo

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looks like it was pulled from auction

ram

iTrader: (4)

people are living a dream thinking its still possible to bag a cossie project for 2-3k. especially a complete car!

its 2015 and theres no such thing as a bargain cossie anymore.

Roosie

iTrader: (8)

Dunno I played 2.5k for a nice saff last year

Roosie

iTrader: (8)

I know of loads in gardens with no mot were people just left them most don't use forums or eBay so Still think there 2k motors , I should have one soon from a old boy up road he said he's selling when mot has run out in August I've give him my 3k bid he seemed happy and shook on it he's late 50s. Been trying to get it for 5 years

James Porter

iTrader: (1)

Remember...

It's all a matter of opinion

cossynut2

If the bloke has had it for a long time and its not a rusty shitter but a well looked after car he will be bonkers to accept your lowball £3k offer. I hope he has Sons or Daughters who will help him get a proper price for it when he does come to sell it. Do you always sell your stuff at knock down prices ?

LHD220Turbo

iTrader: (4)

So you wouldn't buy it given the chance at 3k? jealousy is a terrible thing!
the bloke doesn't have to accept his 3k offer, its not as if he's forcing him to sell it!!