Silver Saph Cossie project- whats it worth?
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Silver Saph Cossie project- whats it worth?
Right then, not even sure I want to sell to be honest, but I just don't get the time to play with cars much any more ..
The car is a HPI clear 1993 K reg 4x4 silver Sapphire Cosworth, approx 108k miles. Loads of history with it, I have owned it for 7 years but never really had the chance to get the car finished & up to the standard the spec deserves... First of all, the photos were taken yesterday (15/6/14), so give a pretty good idea of the condition of the car. There are a few spots of rust, and a few scrapes & scratches, but overall it is a great car in a rare colour, with an even better spec.
As it stands, the car has no gearbox in it as I have converted it from 4x4 to 2wd, and originally put in a T5 2wd cossie box. I sold this & bought a TKO 600 box from another PF member, complete with the clutch kit, prop & mounts+bellhousing to drop it straight in, but as yet I have not had chance to fit it.
The car also has a 10.5" Jag diff, huge driveshafts & custom prop, plus a Zoo 6° rear beam. Coupled with the TKO box, this should make a pretty indestructable drivetrain.
Engine spec: 200 block with 7.2:1 Cosworth forged pistons, valve cut outs
25/26mm ported head with BD14 inlet cam
900 mile old Roller bearing MAR-M 247 shafted (full ALS capable) T4, with GT35 front housing ultra rare. 2wd exhuast manifold with Reyland extension spacer block, custom oil feed hoses to accomodate.
3" Mongoose exhuast with 4" outward rolled backbox
WRC 4 layer steel head gasket
ARP rod bolts
850cc injectors
044 Fuel pump with Aeroquip braided lines front to back
500 cooler
turbo cooler
HKS fuel pressure regulator
Various alloy tanks
Silicone engine bay hoses
MSD live mapped with wasted spark & closed loop Lambda control, Conservative figures of 480 Bhp/430Lbs torque.
Suspension: newly refurbished Leda Adjustable coilovers, although they have GAZ stickers on due to them refurbishing them. Zoo 6° fully adjustable rear beam, solid mounted & rest of the suspension poly bushed.
Brakes: Standard 4x4 kit all round.
Wheels: 18x8" Comp MOs in Anthractie, some slight laquer peel on a couple, good tyres
Interior: Very tidy full raven leather, no sagging door cards, great condition bar a small amount of scuffing on the drivers bolster, but minimal wear.
SPA race tacho, multifunction with digi speedo, 0-60 timer etc & 3 stage shift lights, very nice bit of kit, set up for wasted spark so no ty[ical half speed issues. HKS 2.5 bar stepper motor boost gauge, SPA oil temp/pressure gauges, water temp & fuel pressure gauge. ACT gauge also supplied.
Few pics of the car:
Now, the car as it stands needs a good clean up, the gearbox & hydraulic clutch fitting, and the brakes sorting out as it has been stood for a while.
There are other options for it as well, the car could be put back to 4x4 easily as I still have all the parts except for the complete rear beam.
I also have a brand new hart plenum, a brand new airtec 100mm top feed intercooler, a set of compression struts, a genuine rouse sport rear spoiler & a 330mm AP 5200 4 pot brake kit, all of which could be sold with the car at extra cost. Will come with the private plate that is valued at £1200 as well.
I really have not got a clue what to ask for this, as it is a great car just looking for someone with a bit of time to finish it off to a good standard.
I WON'T break it or sell bits off it at the moment, it's far too good for that, any suggestions on what to price it at would be most appreciated
The car is a HPI clear 1993 K reg 4x4 silver Sapphire Cosworth, approx 108k miles. Loads of history with it, I have owned it for 7 years but never really had the chance to get the car finished & up to the standard the spec deserves... First of all, the photos were taken yesterday (15/6/14), so give a pretty good idea of the condition of the car. There are a few spots of rust, and a few scrapes & scratches, but overall it is a great car in a rare colour, with an even better spec.
As it stands, the car has no gearbox in it as I have converted it from 4x4 to 2wd, and originally put in a T5 2wd cossie box. I sold this & bought a TKO 600 box from another PF member, complete with the clutch kit, prop & mounts+bellhousing to drop it straight in, but as yet I have not had chance to fit it.
The car also has a 10.5" Jag diff, huge driveshafts & custom prop, plus a Zoo 6° rear beam. Coupled with the TKO box, this should make a pretty indestructable drivetrain.
Engine spec: 200 block with 7.2:1 Cosworth forged pistons, valve cut outs
25/26mm ported head with BD14 inlet cam
900 mile old Roller bearing MAR-M 247 shafted (full ALS capable) T4, with GT35 front housing ultra rare. 2wd exhuast manifold with Reyland extension spacer block, custom oil feed hoses to accomodate.
3" Mongoose exhuast with 4" outward rolled backbox
WRC 4 layer steel head gasket
ARP rod bolts
850cc injectors
044 Fuel pump with Aeroquip braided lines front to back
500 cooler
turbo cooler
HKS fuel pressure regulator
Various alloy tanks
Silicone engine bay hoses
MSD live mapped with wasted spark & closed loop Lambda control, Conservative figures of 480 Bhp/430Lbs torque.
Suspension: newly refurbished Leda Adjustable coilovers, although they have GAZ stickers on due to them refurbishing them. Zoo 6° fully adjustable rear beam, solid mounted & rest of the suspension poly bushed.
Brakes: Standard 4x4 kit all round.
Wheels: 18x8" Comp MOs in Anthractie, some slight laquer peel on a couple, good tyres
Interior: Very tidy full raven leather, no sagging door cards, great condition bar a small amount of scuffing on the drivers bolster, but minimal wear.
SPA race tacho, multifunction with digi speedo, 0-60 timer etc & 3 stage shift lights, very nice bit of kit, set up for wasted spark so no ty[ical half speed issues. HKS 2.5 bar stepper motor boost gauge, SPA oil temp/pressure gauges, water temp & fuel pressure gauge. ACT gauge also supplied.
Few pics of the car:
Now, the car as it stands needs a good clean up, the gearbox & hydraulic clutch fitting, and the brakes sorting out as it has been stood for a while.
There are other options for it as well, the car could be put back to 4x4 easily as I still have all the parts except for the complete rear beam.
I also have a brand new hart plenum, a brand new airtec 100mm top feed intercooler, a set of compression struts, a genuine rouse sport rear spoiler & a 330mm AP 5200 4 pot brake kit, all of which could be sold with the car at extra cost. Will come with the private plate that is valued at £1200 as well.
I really have not got a clue what to ask for this, as it is a great car just looking for someone with a bit of time to finish it off to a good standard.
I WON'T break it or sell bits off it at the moment, it's far too good for that, any suggestions on what to price it at would be most appreciated
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Why is he a bellend ?
people never put a price on anything even tho they know full well what its worth or what they want
Anyway , Break it Wil , as it will never fetch anywhere near complete what it will break up for
people never put a price on anything even tho they know full well what its worth or what they want
Anyway , Break it Wil , as it will never fetch anywhere near complete what it will break up for
Last edited by Mr RS500; 17-06-2014 at 08:10 AM.
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unfortuantly the number plate as it stands is worth nothing and as running projects have recently sold for 5-7k so i recon in this condition 6.5k if i had the cash id be offering but funds dont allow at the mo
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I also have a brand new hart plenum, a brand new airtec 100mm top feed intercooler, a set of compression struts, a genuine rouse sport rear spoiler & a 330mm AP 5200 4 pot brake kit, all of which could be sold with the car at extra cost. Will come with the private plate that is valued at £1200 as well.
i was including these parts in the price of 10k
im sure the car can be motd again at some stage ,so the plate still has a value ssurely???
I also have a brand new hart plenum, a brand new airtec 100mm top feed intercooler, a set of compression struts, a genuine rouse sport rear spoiler & a 330mm AP 5200 4 pot brake kit, all of which could be sold with the car at extra cost. Will come with the private plate that is valued at £1200 as well.
i was including these parts in the price of 10k
im sure the car can be motd again at some stage ,so the plate still has a value ssurely???
Last edited by james kiely; 17-06-2014 at 09:02 PM.
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You have to ask...
1.does engine run ok could need a rebuild
2.does gearbox work, could need a rebuild
3.any welding
4 respray
etc,etc,etc when there like that the list could be endless, and as the seller has pointed out hard to price
Could be a good car but on the other hand could cost a small fortune, and putting all the hrs labour aside could have spent 10K and got a mint runner.
Have to agree with Jay.....
1.does engine run ok could need a rebuild
2.does gearbox work, could need a rebuild
3.any welding
4 respray
etc,etc,etc when there like that the list could be endless, and as the seller has pointed out hard to price
Could be a good car but on the other hand could cost a small fortune, and putting all the hrs labour aside could have spent 10K and got a mint runner.
Have to agree with Jay.....
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your wrong the plate can be tranfered without mot or tax a friend has just done one on an old landrover hes owned for a long time,you have to write to the DVLA appealing to get it removed as you have owned the car for many years and you have nom intention of putting it back on the road.not a lot of people know about this BUT you have to have owned the car for some time as its stops people just dragging scrap form out of barns ect just for the plate,thats why the MOT and tax rule was bought in
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your wrong the plate can be tranfered without mot or tax a friend has just done one on an old landrover hes owned for a long time,you have to write to the DVLA appealing to get it removed as you have owned the car for many years and you have nom intention of putting it back on the road.not a lot of people know about this BUT you have to have owned the car for some time as its stops people just dragging scrap form out of barns ect just for the plate,thats why the MOT and tax rule was bought in
your wrong the plate can be tranfered without mot or tax a friend has just done one on an old landrover hes owned for a long time,you have to write to the DVLA appealing to get it removed as you have owned the car for many years and you have nom intention of putting it back on the road.not a lot of people know about this BUT you have to have owned the car for some time as its stops people just dragging scrap form out of barns ect just for the plate,thats why the MOT and tax rule was bought in
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Interesting responses. Obviously to traders it's worth far less as you have to have a margin built in, but I was thinking to an enthusiast buyer it might make a cheapish was to a very good car with all the right bits?
My initial thoughts after all this would be to say 8k including the big brake set up. Is that unreasonable considering the amount of high value parts on it?
Tell me if I'm dreaming
My initial thoughts after all this would be to say 8k including the big brake set up. Is that unreasonable considering the amount of high value parts on it?
Tell me if I'm dreaming
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Agree, that's in parts though, it will always be worth more in bits than as a whole car, so breaking it or atleast putting it back to standard and selling the other bits seperate would be the best bet. I would struggle to see more value than 5-6k the way it is purely IMO.
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Interesting responses. Obviously to traders it's worth far less as you have to have a margin built in, but I was thinking to an enthusiast buyer it might make a cheapish was to a very good car with all the right bits?
My initial thoughts after all this would be to say 8k including the big brake set up. Is that unreasonable considering the amount of high value parts on it?
Tell me if I'm dreaming
My initial thoughts after all this would be to say 8k including the big brake set up. Is that unreasonable considering the amount of high value parts on it?
Tell me if I'm dreaming
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is this a for sale thread or a whats it worth thread, it may be in the wrong section?
if i want to sell something i put prices on it.
all youll get is somebody wanting a 20 quid door rubber pm you, then a rubber stop at a fiver. do everybody a favour and price accordingly.
if i want to sell something i put prices on it.
all youll get is somebody wanting a 20 quid door rubber pm you, then a rubber stop at a fiver. do everybody a favour and price accordingly.
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